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Subject: Re: Poll Question ? { Dream Match }

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 16:24:45 01/07/00

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On January 07, 2000 at 13:31:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 07, 2000 at 13:23:07, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>Albert,
>>
>>All ELO ratings are calculated that way (SSDF, FIDE, PCA, ...).
>>
>>They are all based on opponents ratings at the time.  :)
>>
>>I missed your point.  However, I respect your opinion and agree to
>>disagree.  :)
>>
>>So tell me,
>>
>>What do you think the rating of Hiarcs 7.32 is in FIDE?  (Not Rebel Century)
>>Why do you think that?  Do you consider that a valid and reliable estimate?
>>Why? How confident are you with that estimate?  Why?
>>
>>Perhaps I have missed something.  Convince me to change my mind, but please
>>do not tell me I am wrong just because you disagree, give me a better estimate
>>and a better way to prove the estimate is correct.  I am not looking for
>>the SSDF is bad argument, I am looking for a better estimate that stands
>>on its own and does not need to bash SSDF or someone elses opinion.  :)
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>
>My estimate still has not changed.  I think that the top programs would probably
>settle in at 2450 or so, maybe as high as 2500 if they are lucky.  But no
>higher.  And I think that the top programs would do fairly similarly against
>humans (although I think some of the 'fast searchers' would have serious
>problems once the GM/IM players figured them out).  IE on the SSDF list the
>top 10 programs might be separated by a span of 150 rating points.  Against
>humans I think this would compress to 50 or so for the most part...

Hi!

What on earth is this for nonsense, it doesn´t matter what program you use or
what computer speed you have all programs performs the same level of 2450 or so
against your GM-friends. Have you programmed your friends?

Bertil
>
>And I think it would steadily drop if the engines remain static. Humans learn.
>Computers don't.



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