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Subject: Re: Poll Question ? { Dream Match }

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 10:31:39 01/07/00

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On January 07, 2000 at 13:23:07, Chris Carson wrote:

>Albert,
>
>All ELO ratings are calculated that way (SSDF, FIDE, PCA, ...).
>
>They are all based on opponents ratings at the time.  :)
>
>I missed your point.  However, I respect your opinion and agree to
>disagree.  :)
>
>So tell me,
>
>What do you think the rating of Hiarcs 7.32 is in FIDE?  (Not Rebel Century)
>Why do you think that?  Do you consider that a valid and reliable estimate?
>Why? How confident are you with that estimate?  Why?
>
>Perhaps I have missed something.  Convince me to change my mind, but please
>do not tell me I am wrong just because you disagree, give me a better estimate
>and a better way to prove the estimate is correct.  I am not looking for
>the SSDF is bad argument, I am looking for a better estimate that stands
>on its own and does not need to bash SSDF or someone elses opinion.  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson


My estimate still has not changed.  I think that the top programs would probably
settle in at 2450 or so, maybe as high as 2500 if they are lucky.  But no
higher.  And I think that the top programs would do fairly similarly against
humans (although I think some of the 'fast searchers' would have serious
problems once the GM/IM players figured them out).  IE on the SSDF list the
top 10 programs might be separated by a span of 150 rating points.  Against
humans I think this would compress to 50 or so for the most part...

And I think it would steadily drop if the engines remain static. Humans learn.
Computers don't.



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