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Subject: Re: Poll Question ? { Dream Match }

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:37:02 01/08/00

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On January 08, 2000 at 19:34:04, France Levesque wrote:

>On January 08, 2000 at 16:49:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>They have stated clearly that they did something 8 years ago to adjust the
>>ratings somehow, but nothing since.  8 years without a human vs computer game
>>of any kind...  which explains why SSDF and FIDE ratings have no conversion
>>formula.
>
>I am not sure why it would be necessary to have humans play computers at SSDF
>for a conversion table.  The win/loss/rating matrix would probably be better at
>the SSDF than FIDE as the players are all relatively at the same strength. In
>other words, to pull away from the pack you have to be very strong.  "Some" wins
>will not do it, you will need allot.
>
>May I suggest you setup a filter on Crafty as follows;
>
>5 Minute Time Control
>---------------------
>                              Win      Loss    Draw
>Opponent ELO
>
>Once you have this filter for each time control you should be able to come up
>with a close estimate of Crafty at FIDE ELO's at various time controls.  In
>other words, you may be able to determine whether Crafty is IM at 2/40 or
>whatever !?


Excepting 40/2, I can give that kind of data, because I have games vs humans,
while the SSDF doesn't.  But a program doesn't have to be a lot stronger than
another to 'pull away from it'.  It has been noticed many times that small
changes in a program produdce significant improvement over older versions,
even though that difference isn't seen in real human vs computer events...



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