Author: blass uri
Date: 07:32:02 01/13/00
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On January 13, 2000 at 10:21:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 12, 2000 at 15:25:18, Rajendran Ramachandran wrote: > >>On January 12, 2000 at 14:45:13, Rajen Gupta wrote: >> >>>from the atrocious results of rebel vs grandmasters it is pretty clear that once >>>humans get the feel of playing against computers or even a particular computer, >>>they (ie humans)would get the better of computers.It is a fact that kasparov had >>>no opportunity at all to evaluate deep blue while the reverse was not true.In >>>all fairness kasparov should have been allowed a couple of weeks with deep >>>blue-he would have identified the holes and blasted through them-just as the >>>humans are now doing to rebel >>> >>>rajen gupta >> >>Well said rajen >> >>A complete list of games as a database of kasparov's games would have been >>available to the computer for determining the style, weakness etc.. >> >>raj > > >This is wrong. Did not Kasparov play completely different openings in the >match than he played in prior tournaments? Did he not try some anti-computer >stuff by taking DB out of book quickly with bizarre moves? So he can totally >change his style of play so that old games are useless, while DB has to (a) >provide old games and then (b) play exactly like it did in those old games? > >He got some atrocious advice for how to prepare for Deep Blue. He used the >wrong training approach, using a micro and thinking it was teaching him how >DB would play. He played openings he was unfamiliar with which put him into >new territory against an opponent _very good_ in unfamiliar territory. It was >error on top of error. I disagree that it was an error to get deeper blue out of book as soon as possible. Kasparov got better positions in most of the games against deeper blue. kasparov lost against deeper blue only in the games he followed theory. a micro does not play the same moves as deeper blue but it is the best opponent he could train against before the match. kasparov won in the first game when deeper blue did typical micro mistakes. Uri
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