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Subject: Re: Kasparov's manager answers Hsu

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:18:17 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 10:46:51, Chris Carson wrote:

>And accepting your statement, then
>DB never played any program/computer in
>a public match (only in a lab, no published
>match details before hand, no preparations by
>the other programmers that I am aware of).
>
>IMHO:  not a fair event.  :(
>
>DB prototype came in third in a public tournament
>(in the light of day, not in a hidden room
>with no independant verification or validation).
>
>IMHO:  a fair event.  :)
>
>If you have other information such as match conditions, program setup,
>game results, pgn files from a public source and can show
>independant validation, please let me know.  I like DB and
>DB junior and respect HSU, but I have to ask why no public tournaments like
>Rebel, Fritz, Hiarcs, Junior, ... have done (before the Kasparov
>match)?  :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson


Wait until Hsu's book comes out.  Check the 'timing'.  If they had played a
tournament with the real DB-1 or DB-2 hardware, it would have been within a
couple of weeks of the event.  For the last event they were seriously giving
thought to either using the 1996 hardware or postponing, because the FAB shop
screwed up badly several times (not design problems, but mis-communication
inside the fab shop.  IE Hsu wanted a 40-pin package. He got something bigger.
He wanted interlaced data lines across the chip to save space.  They didn't
notice this.  And even after all of that they had some ugly problems to solve
in a period of a week or so.  IE when you have 32 'wires' running in parallel,
at high clock frequencies, with very close spacing, 'crosstalk' is a problem.

They had to solve a bunch of problems with software kludges.  And they were
barely ready to play Kasparov at match time, much less ready to do demos months
in advance.  I was surprised how closely they cut it.  I thought only us
academic types did that kind of stuff (IE Cray Blitz became parallel in the
two weeks immediately prior to the 1983 WCCC event we won...  When I left for
New York (driving, about 24 hours non-stop) the thing wasn't working due to a
compiler problem.  Harry was in Minneapolis working with Cray as we drove.  That
was close.  DB had the same sort of problems, which was surprising in a way.
But probably typical overall.  :)



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