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Subject: Re: In defence of Kasparov

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:12:07 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 14:22:08, george petty wrote:

>On January 14, 2000 at 13:18:37, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2000 at 12:17:49, Pete R. wrote:
>>
>>>On January 14, 2000 at 03:21:14, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on January 13, 2000 at 23:31:57:
>>>>
>>>>[ snips ]
>>>>
>>>>>There are some things above that are very suspicious.  At the top of the
>>>>>response, he directly quoted Hsu.  But after the beginning, no more quotes
>>>>>to support his less than savory description of Hsu's actions.  I find this
>>>>>troubling.  If he would quote him at the beginning, then couldn't he quote
>>>>>some of his "belligerent" comments as well?
>>>>
>>>>Maybe Mr. Williams has manners?
>>>
>>>Maybe so, maybe not.  I don't know either party, but frankly I find his letter
>>>insulting and in poor taste.  Not only that but it's defamatory, while Hsu's
>>>letter is not.  I don't know Hsu from Adam, but Mr. Williams' letter clearly
>>>paints his character in a bad light and tries to sway the reader that he is some
>>>sort of jerk.  His only defense against a lawsuit Hsu could bring for this would
>>>be the truth, i.e. he has to support his statement that Hsu's emails were
>>>belligerent and threatening, and support his interpretation that he was going to
>>>make comments on Kasparov's behalf, and so forth.  The reader can't decide
>>>unless the emails are published.  And I agree with Dr. Hyatt that it's
>>>suspicious already that Mr. Williams does not already support this with
>>>quotations.  If I were Hsu, and *if* Hsu is innocent of the behavior painted by
>>>Mr. Williams, the next phone call Mr. Williams would get would be from my
>>>lawyer.  You are free to have an opinion as to the relative character of Mr. Hsu
>>>vs. Mr. Williams, but it would be wiser to refrain from public comment, though
>>>that choice is yours.  Personally I would like to see the email exchange myself
>>>rather than rely on other people's opinions.
>>
>>Instead of a big scientific discussion, what about a short
>>buiseness discussion?
>>
>>Sure, personally i would LOVE such a match happening. However i can't
>>afford Kasparov and i clearly realize that. I can't afford a single GM
>>even. I'm lucky some play a few blitz games against it at the internet.
>>
>>Now we see a person called Hsu. Why not first make a program,
>>start hacking it up to the internet, then start thinking of these things?
>>
>>Kasparov gets questions like this every day: "let us sign some contracts,
>>then i go try find some money with your signature".
>>
>>Perhaps 10 times a day?
>>
>>Sure not every day from Hsu, but Kasparov is a professional chessplayer,
>>not a professor who is there to do research and help students.
>>
>>I'm sure Hsu can dedicate easily another 6 months to building *a* machine.
>>In a letter Hsu says he doesn't need more money to make it even. excellent.
>>
>>Then he can show something. In USA internet is for free in contradiction
>>to europe. for a few dollar he can hack it up to the internet chess
>>server, i'm sure of that.
>>
>>A promise IBM has never kept, probably fearing other computers.
>>
>>Now then he has something to show his sponsors
>>
>>   - i've got a machine
>>   - see how it plays
>>
>>Right now he can only show a bit of dusty paper.
>>
>>First play a cheap 2700+ GM for example. Now IF it wins, then go on
>>and try to achieve the big price.
>>
>>Of course if Hsu doesn't believe in his new machine he sure won't play
>>other GMs.
>>
>>Vincent
>
>  EXCELLENT!!  I wish I had said that.  Very good.
>
>  Best wishes,
>
>  George


Here is a suggestion:  If you don't have anything to add, please don't post
"I agree" or "I wish I had said that".  It only wastes bandwidth downloading
the headers for threading, and then reading a bunch of quoted stuff with nothing
new at the end.

Nettiquette suggests that this is a newbie practice that should be avoided.



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