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Subject: Re: Anand comment about Deep Blue

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 15:36:07 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 18:17:35, blass uri wrote:

>On January 14, 2000 at 17:58:35, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2000 at 03:44:14, george petty wrote:
>>[snip]
>>> You are not modest are you?  If you knew so much about computers, why is
>>> your program not up there with the TOP programs, such as Fritz, Rebel,
>>> Junior, and Shredder just to name a few?
>>
>>Every program will have its attractors and detractors, friends, foes, and
>>advocates.  Crafty does compete with some success against the best programs in
>>the world.  I have posted messages with tournament records that prove my
>>assertion.  I have seen crafty slap CS-Tal [a professional program] absolutely
>>silly.
>>
>>The professional programs like Fritz and Rebel, etc. have programmers who do
>>nothing but develop their chess program.  That's their job, that's what they do.
>
>I do not think that they do nothing except developing their programs.
>>
Certainly it was an over-simplification.  They have to do marketing and
advertizing and all sorts of things like that as well.  But I think it should be
pretty clear that professional chess programmers get to spend more time on their
programs [at least I should *hope* so].
<<

>Some points:
>
>Crafty is a free program with a free source code so they can take ideas from
>crafty.

That probably happens from time to time.  But I suspect that the professional
programmers do most of their own thinking.  They are certainly peers with Bob in
ability.  If he comes up with something wonderful, it will obviously be
duplicated.  His inclusion of the Nalimov tablebase files probably broke some
ground, but Eugene's interface was the big break in that department.

>Crafty knows things that most commercial program do not know(for example using
>more than one processor)

That gap will close rapidly and (indeed) is already closing.  Deep Junior and
Diep are two examples that spring to mind.



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