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Subject: Re: Anand comment about Deep Blue

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 22:20:28 01/14/00

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On January 14, 2000 at 18:36:07, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On January 14, 2000 at 18:17:35, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On January 14, 2000 at 17:58:35, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On January 14, 2000 at 03:44:14, george petty wrote:
>>>[snip]
>>>> You are not modest are you?  If you knew so much about computers, why is
>>>> your program not up there with the TOP programs, such as Fritz, Rebel,
>>>> Junior, and Shredder just to name a few?
>>>
>>>Every program will have its attractors and detractors, friends, foes, and
>>>advocates.  Crafty does compete with some success against the best programs in
>>>the world.  I have posted messages with tournament records that prove my
>>>assertion.  I have seen crafty slap CS-Tal [a professional program] absolutely
>>>silly.
>>>
>>>The professional programs like Fritz and Rebel, etc. have programmers who do
>>>nothing but develop their chess program.  That's their job, that's what they do.
>>
>>I do not think that they do nothing except developing their programs.
>>>
>Certainly it was an over-simplification.  They have to do marketing and
>advertizing and all sorts of things like that as well.  But I think it should be
>pretty clear that professional chess programmers get to spend more time on their
>programs [at least I should *hope* so].
><<
>
>>Some points:
>>
>>Crafty is a free program with a free source code so they can take ideas from
>>crafty.
>
>That probably happens from time to time.  But I suspect that the professional
>programmers do most of their own thinking.  They are certainly peers with Bob in
>ability.  If he comes up with something wonderful, it will obviously be
>duplicated.  His inclusion of the Nalimov tablebase files probably broke some
>ground, but Eugene's interface was the big break in that department.
>
>>Crafty knows things that most commercial program do not know(for example using
>>more than one processor)
>
>That gap will close rapidly and (indeed) is already closing.  Deep Junior and
>Diep are two examples that spring to mind.


It is time for my next project. Today I finished the PO for a new beowulf
cluster machine here.  This machine will have 8 nodes, with each node being
a quad xeon 550mhz machine.  The nodes will be connected by a gigabit/sec
switch.  And no, it won't be crafty's permanent machine.  But look for it to
do some interesting matches on ICC later this year when I get to the distributed
search.  :)

This is an interesting 'cluster' since it has 8 machines with 4 cpus per
node.  We are adding 8 more machines this Summer.  It will be a horse of
a box, and the initial 8-node box ought to be able to search at 8M nodes
per second easily...



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