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Subject: Re: Kasparov's manager answers Hsu

Author: blass uri

Date: 10:50:13 01/15/00

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On January 15, 2000 at 11:09:45, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 15, 2000 at 02:37:44, James Robertson wrote:
>
>>On January 15, 2000 at 00:45:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>I'll bite on that discussion.  Exactly _how_ did you learn to do this so
>>>quickly?  Looking at the programs of others?  Asking questions that several
>>>of us answer as quickly as possible?
>>
>>Of course. I owe so much to all you guys. And I doubt Hsu developed DB in
>>complete seclusion.
>>
>>>
>>>Now how much is known about the _real_ design work of DB?  How many know
>>>anything about "belle" which is where the chess processor design really
>>>started?  Etc.
>>>
>>>There is much less known about DB's hardware, because hardly anyone is
>>>interested...
>>>
>>
>>Ok, here I see you have a point. I have been taking it for granted that DB's
>>chips were advanced versions of what already existed, and this may not be true.
>>It is possible he did something completely different and original.
>>
>
>that is the _wrong_ question.  The right question is "If someone else wanted
>to continue the deep blue project _today_ how long would it take them to catch
>up to the point where Hsu is?  While Hsu is off doing a new machine by himself
>without IBM involved?  I claim 12 years +or longer+...
>
>And during that 12 years, Hsu would also have 12 years.  He would not be
>caught, most likely...
>
>
>
>>Still, I will take this back to the original discussion; could DB have been done
>>without Hsu? I believe there are many ways to make a supercomputer that plays
>>super chess. Hsu invented one way, and others could invent other ways too.
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>>And they met with brilliant success.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Didn't Kasparov lose the match?  That doesn't spell "S-U-C-C-E-S-S" to
>>>me.  :)
>>
>>I was being sarcastic. :) His brilliant plans to change his stye (Game 6: ...
>>h6!!! Deep Blue falls for the trap and plays Nxe6) met with stunning results. :\
>>
>>James
>
>
>There we agree.  poor decision (and no, I don't believe it was an accident,
>I believe it was planned.)

It was clearly an accident.

I remember that Kasparov thought when he was in book and this is a proof that it
was an accident.

I believe that he did not think about the first mistake Qe7 becuase he knew that
he wrote a book when he claimed that Qe7 is the best move and did not like to
admit that he is not sure about it.

Uri



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