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Subject: Re: Learning problems of Tiger

Author: Alexander Kure

Date: 15:29:39 01/18/00

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On January 18, 2000 at 10:32:51, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>I noticed that sometimes Tiger keeps playing the same losing opening lines. In
>the match Tiger-Hiarcs, games 6 and 10 are D10 openings, identical until 14...
>e6, where Hiarcs shows an evaluation of 0.82 from its point of view. Tiger lost
>them both. Games 17 and 19 were A45 lines that immediately out of book Hiarcs
>evaluated as 0.57 in its favor. Again, Tiger lost both games. It seems that
>there is a learner problem that will allow Tiger to play repeatedly the same
>losing lines.
>
>Enrique
>
>
>[Event "Cadaques Tournament"]
>[Site "Cadaques"]
>[Date "2000.01.13"]
>[Round "6"]
>[White "Rebel-Tiger 12.0e"]
>[Black "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>[Result "0-1"]
>[ECO "D10"]
>[Annotator "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>[PlyCount "176"]
>[EventDate "2000.01.01"]
>
>{184MB, H732-new.ctg. PIII-500
>} 1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. c4 {1} 2... c6 {0}
>3. cxd5 {1} 3... cxd5 {0} 4. Nc3 {1} 4... Nf6 {0} 5. Bf4 {1} 5... Qb6 {0} 6. e3
>{1} 6... Qxb2 {0} 7. Rc1 {1} 7... Nc6 {0} 8. Bd3 {1} 8... a6 {0} 9. Nf3 {
>last book move 73} 9... Nb4 {-0.45/8 63} 10. Bb1 {124} 10... Bd7 {-0.59/9 71}
>11. O-O {65} 11... Rc8 {-0.65/10 6} 12. Qe2 {101} 12... Qxe2 {-0.69/10 0} 13.
>Nxe2 {18} 13... Nc6 {-0.73/11 57} 14. Ne5 {169} 14... e6 {-0.82/10 54}
>
>[Event "Cadaques Tournament"]
>[Site "Cadaques"]
>[Date "2000.01.14"]
>[Round "9"]
>[White "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>[Black "Rebel-Tiger 12.0e"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "A45"]
>[Annotator "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>[PlyCount "117"]
>[EventDate "2000.01.01"]
>
>{176MB, H732-new.ctg. PIII-500
>} 1. d4 {0} 1... Nf6 {1} 2. Bg5 {0} 2... Ne4 {1
>} 3. Bh4 {0} 3... g5 {1} 4. f3 {0} 4... gxh4 {1} 5. fxe4 {0}


I can absolutely see nothing what should be wrong with the opening of the 2nd
game. after 5...c5 Blacks strategy is to play on the weak dark squares by means
of Bh6 or the interesting manoeuvre Qd8-b6-h6.
To say this opening is loosing is - to put it mildly - a bad joke. It may seem
so that some chess programms, who are used to play with an intact pawn structure
loose their balance when confronted with such kind of positions but from a chess
point of view there is absolutely nothing wrong with either side of the
position. It would be interesting to put this position to test in some computer
matches as in the Nunn test.

Greetings
Alex



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