Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 15:40:43 01/18/00
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On January 18, 2000 at 18:29:39, Alexander Kure wrote:
>On January 18, 2000 at 10:32:51, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>I noticed that sometimes Tiger keeps playing the same losing opening lines. In
>>the match Tiger-Hiarcs, games 6 and 10 are D10 openings, identical until 14...
>>e6, where Hiarcs shows an evaluation of 0.82 from its point of view. Tiger lost
>>them both. Games 17 and 19 were A45 lines that immediately out of book Hiarcs
>>evaluated as 0.57 in its favor. Again, Tiger lost both games. It seems that
>>there is a learner problem that will allow Tiger to play repeatedly the same
>>losing lines.
>>
>>Enrique
>>
>>
>>[Event "Cadaques Tournament"]
>>[Site "Cadaques"]
>>[Date "2000.01.13"]
>>[Round "6"]
>>[White "Rebel-Tiger 12.0e"]
>>[Black "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>>[Result "0-1"]
>>[ECO "D10"]
>>[Annotator "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>>[PlyCount "176"]
>>[EventDate "2000.01.01"]
>>
>>{184MB, H732-new.ctg. PIII-500
>>} 1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0} 2. c4 {1} 2... c6 {0}
>>3. cxd5 {1} 3... cxd5 {0} 4. Nc3 {1} 4... Nf6 {0} 5. Bf4 {1} 5... Qb6 {0} 6. e3
>>{1} 6... Qxb2 {0} 7. Rc1 {1} 7... Nc6 {0} 8. Bd3 {1} 8... a6 {0} 9. Nf3 {
>>last book move 73} 9... Nb4 {-0.45/8 63} 10. Bb1 {124} 10... Bd7 {-0.59/9 71}
>>11. O-O {65} 11... Rc8 {-0.65/10 6} 12. Qe2 {101} 12... Qxe2 {-0.69/10 0} 13.
>>Nxe2 {18} 13... Nc6 {-0.73/11 57} 14. Ne5 {169} 14... e6 {-0.82/10 54}
>>
>>[Event "Cadaques Tournament"]
>>[Site "Cadaques"]
>>[Date "2000.01.14"]
>>[Round "9"]
>>[White "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>>[Black "Rebel-Tiger 12.0e"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>[ECO "A45"]
>>[Annotator "Hiarcs 7.32"]
>>[PlyCount "117"]
>>[EventDate "2000.01.01"]
>>
>>{176MB, H732-new.ctg. PIII-500
>>} 1. d4 {0} 1... Nf6 {1} 2. Bg5 {0} 2... Ne4 {1
>>} 3. Bh4 {0} 3... g5 {1} 4. f3 {0} 4... gxh4 {1} 5. fxe4 {0}
>
>
>I can absolutely see nothing what should be wrong with the opening of the 2nd
>game. after 5...c5 Blacks strategy is to play on the weak dark squares by means
>of Bh6 or the interesting manoeuvre Qd8-b6-h6.
>To say this opening is loosing is - to put it mildly - a bad joke.
It may be a wonderful line, the best ever, but for Tiger it is losing. That's
the point. The bad joke is playing twice the same losing line.
Enrique
> It may seem
>so that some chess programms, who are used to play with an intact pawn structure
>loose their balance when confronted with such kind of positions but from a chess
>point of view there is absolutely nothing wrong with either side of the
>position. It would be interesting to put this position to test in some computer
>matches as in the Nunn test.
>
>Greetings
>Alex
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