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Subject: Re: IBM Printouts

Author: Martin Grabriel

Date: 22:09:27 01/20/00

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why then was Kasparov so uptight about seeing the log? In his mind perhaps he
thought the log could prove cheating? I tend to agree with the Proffessor that
the log doesn't prove anything..so Kasparov was wrong on at leaset one count --
he believed the log would/could prove cheating.


On January 20, 2000 at 22:06:17, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 20, 2000 at 19:08:25, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On January 20, 2000 at 14:27:12, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>Do they prove cheating or not?
>>
>>They do not prove cheeting, however they raise some
>>questions.  The logs I read from the comercial programs
>>leave not doubt about a game, the DB logs do.  IMHO.
>>
>
>
>How so?  Their output provides the same information that most programs
>provide...  PVs, scores...  times...  etc...
>
>
>
>>The logs should easily prove not-cheating and they do not
>>prove that either.  I do not believe at this time that
>>cheating occured, however, the DB team has not cleared itself
>>of a simple to prove issue.  IMHO.
>
>
>I think that is _nonsense_.  Logs can _not_ prove that they didn't cheat.
>Nor can they prove that they did.  I'll be more than happy to set up a demo
>for you where _I_ make crafty play a move, and the logs will make it apparent
>that _it_ chose that move.  Would take an hour of programming.
>
>You can not prove a negative.
>
>
>>
>>I do not think it will be resolved.  I think IBM got a "free bee",
>>packed thier toy and went home.  IBM has no incentive to say or do
>>anything else and will not.  IMHO.  :)
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>
>
>What else is there to say?



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