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Subject: Re: Comp vs FIDE Human - All results

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 08:16:26 01/21/00

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On January 21, 2000 at 09:59:25, Leon Stancliff wrote:

>On January 20, 2000 at 09:30:31, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On January 19, 2000 at 21:40:36, Leon Stancliff wrote:
>>
>>>Chris,
>>>
>>>  I want to thank you for being objective on this computer-human discussion. The
>>>die hards may die hard, but again I say, the figures tell the story. The only
>>>unanswered question now is "How long before the competition becomes boring?"
>>
>>See: http://www.icdchess.com/ccc/message.html?90245
>>
>>Thanks for the kind words.  :)
>>
>>That is a good questions.  My guess is 5 years and only the top 5 or
>>10 GM's (in match play against one program that they can study up on)
>>will have a plus record against the programs.  I also think it is unlikely
>>we will see this.  IMHO, we will see more statements like Kasparov and Fritz,
>>but it will refer to all time controls, not just Active.  :)
>>
>>I think we might see more programs in League play, but we will see either
>>the programs playing each other (like Junior vs Rebel in a recent league
>>game) or the team will put it's lowest rated player against the program
>>to avoid having the teams top player loose.  :)
>>
>>The time of program vs GM equality is at hand, enjoy it now.  I am.  :)
>>
>>Just my opinion (plus $2 will get you a cup of coffee).  :)
>>
>>What is your opinion?
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson
>
>I find the whole issue fascinating. We no longer have races between automobiles
>and humans, as once was the case. The time will come when we will no longer have
>interest in the chess computer vs Grandmaster competition. It is impossible to
>forecast the time which will be required for this decline of interest.
>
>I have drawn curves of computer rating versus speed. The doubling rate decreases
>very fast when we get above 500 Mhz. Rather than being 60 Elo points per
>doubling in computer speed, it gets down to perhaps 15 points. A 1 Ghz machine
>will show very little Elo increase over a 600 Mhz. We do not have any
>Grandmasters with more ability that the world champ. Thus we must depend upon
>software and hardware efficiency. It looks like the computers have already
>matched the average Grandmaster on the Fide list. It also looks like it will
>take a L-O-N-G time to reach the top ten.

Interesting work.  You should post your curve, it would generate a lot
of discussion.  :)

Best Regards,
Chris Carson



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