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Subject: Re: Need to know maximum # of N-B-R-Q for black and white (Hey Karins-Dad)!

Author: Les Fernandez

Date: 23:56:00 01/27/00

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On January 28, 2000 at 01:08:44, KarinsDad wrote:

>On January 26, 2000 at 00:42:33, Les Fernandez wrote:
>
>>Does anyone know what the maximum number of pieces for Knight, Bishop, Rook and
>>Queens that can legally be arrived at in a game.  For instance I think I
>>remember a post which talked about it but that was some time ago.  It mentioned
>>something about if white had (ie 9 queens then black could only have ????)  If
>>someone has this information and can clearly list the variations for one side
>>having the max # of a particular piece and what the opposite side can have as a
>>max # I would really appreciate it!
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Les
>
>Hi Les,
>
>I think everyone has answered the question for you, but I will summarize:
>
>N = 20
>B = 20
>R = 20
>Q = 18
>
>Obviously, this cannot be all of the same board and to achieves these numbers,
>pieces must be captured (in order for the pawns to slip past each other).
>
>But, part of your paragraph indicates that you may also be asking the maximum
>number of major pieces on a board. This is 26 (14 original ones plus 12 promoted
>pawns where 4 pawns where captured by other pawns). This is different than the
>maximum number of pieces of a given type and is what causes the 20 byte
>compression problems (well, actually, not knowing how many pawns were promoted
>and whether they slipped past the opposing pawn structure via capturing pawns or
>pieces is the real problem). And the 12 promoted pawns could range anywhere from
>8 white and 4 black through 4 white and 8 black.
>
>Hope this helps. If not, let us all know.
>
>KarinsDad :)

Yes! Thank you all for helping me with my question.  BTW special hello to
Karins-Dad and I am interested to know how your minimum bit scheme is working
out?  Havent seen anything recent and was just curious <s> as always.

Les



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