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Subject: Re: Moderation: I will no longer respond to DR Hyatt

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:30:28 01/29/00

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On January 28, 2000 at 01:04:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On January 27, 2000 at 21:32:07, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On January 27, 2000 at 21:18:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>[snip]
>>{regarding DB support}:
>>>This is an unforgivable sin here or anywhere else.  I think it quite funny
>>>that (a) folks wonder why Hsu doesn't post here;  and then (b) attack anything
>>>they do as inferior.
>>>
>>>I have said this before...  They are far better than anybody (other than maybe
>>>myself and a couple of others) give them credit for.  Just continue to watch
>>>the analysis of the DB logs.  We suddenly discover that (a) they are searching
>>>a lot deeper than some kept thinking;  (b) their branching factor is actually
>>>not much worse than the rest of us;  (c) etc.
>>>
>>>Best to wait and watch.  Lots more will come out over time...  But the
>>>naysayers will _never_ be silenced...
>>
>>I find it very puzzling the huge amount of absolute hostility towards Deep Blue
>>[and HERE of all places]!
>>
>>The last match was 1997.  That's about 3 years ago, and we still talk about it
>>almost daily.  Nothing comes even remotely close to being as interesting as the
>>Deep Blue match.  Nothing has ever generated the publicity for computer chess
>>like the Deep Blue match.
>>
>>And yet people are clearly *angry* at the Deep Blue team.  Is there some sort of
>>history that would explain it?  I keep feeling that I have walked late into a
>>movie and everyone is panning the hero, who seems like such a nice guy.
>>
>>Most amazing of all are the sort of persons who are irate.  Almost always
>>incredibly intelligent computer science types.
>>
>>*boggle*
>
>
>First, everyone wants _their_ favorite micro program to be #1.  That
>won't happen.
>
>Second, nobody wants to see a big iron machine do well.  they want the machine
>they can afford to come out on top.  That won't happen either, for at least
>another 10 years.  I saw this reaction to Cray Blitz, to Belle, to Nuchess/Chess
>4.x, deep thought, hitech and deep blue.

Que?

Shredder4 PIII550 is worldchampion, the rest is details.

>Third, 'university types' seem to not be in vogue with many.  Many would prefer
>if a 'everyday person' were delivering the best chess performance.  You can
>sense a little bit of "anti-academia" most anywhere...
>Who knows what other issues are involved...



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