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Subject: Re: Junior forfeits to Crafty!

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 14:19:49 02/05/00

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On February 05, 2000 at 12:54:14, Peter Kappler wrote:

>On February 05, 2000 at 12:40:24, Amir Ban wrote:
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>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:26:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>>On February 05, 2000 at 12:00:45, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
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>>>>Ban left the cct tourney, because Hyatt was censoring him. Actually, he seems,
>>>>he left 3 minutes after Bob removed him his censor list. So junior will be
>>>>forfeited and the round re-paired. Everybody is pissed at Ban.
>>>
>>>
>>>Here is what happened:  About 3 months ago, Amir directly accused me of writing
>>>code in crafty that was only there to 'abuse' the opponents.  IE playing on in
>>>dead lost games, moving quickly to run the opponent out of time, etc...
>>>
>>>I absolutely do not do that, and I told him so.  He kept the claim alive.  I
>>>told him that if he felt like that, then obviously he wouldn't want to play
>>>a program that is that abusive (if you had seen his history on ICC, you would
>>>have noticed that 90% of his games were against me, which is hard to understand
>>>if my program was _so_ abusively written.)  I then told him here that I was
>>>going to +censor him on ICC, that he could play anybody else he wanted.
>>>
>>>At 10:45 this morning, I saw him on and told crafty to tell him "I am playing
>>>a game with diepx, but I will adjourn it right before start time."  I then
>>>discovered that the "censor" was on (I had totally forgotten about it).  At
>>>10:45 (15 minutes before the round started) I disconnected crafty, then logged
>>>in myself and removed the censor for ban.
>>>
>>>I had also censored him but had forgotten about that as well.  Apparently
>>>right around the time I was removing the censor, he logged on and told the
>>>tournament channel that he wasn't playing until I apologized for the censor on
>>>CCC.
>>>
>>>I'm _not_ apologizing, as _I_ didn't make the outrageous statement that I
>>>had written crafty specifically to behave in an abusive way.  I had planned
>>>on lifting the censor for the tournament game, and then put it back on, as I
>>>won't play him with a program he claims is "abusive" until he retracts that
>>>nonsense.
>>>
>>>That is all that I know.  I didn't see his tells in 164 as I was logged on as
>>>Crafty removing the censor.  I have no idea what he said, specifically... and
>>>see no reason to storm off in a huff.  He _knows_ why he was censored.  And
>>>even if I had not remembered by 11am, a simple request to the TD could have
>>>fixed the problem...
>>>
>>>That's all there is.  What happens next is anybody's guess.  It certainly does
>>>screw up a lot of stuff for a lot of people.
>>
>>Much of this is grossly inaccurate, but never mind this now.
>>
>>Bob has been censoring me ever since the "snot" post he wrote here. For those
>>who who don't know what ICC "censor" is, it means you don't play with the
>>person, and do not agree to hear any message from him either. He's beneath you.
>>
>>I've been aware of it of course. Bob did not discover this. I did, 10 minutes
>>before the game, that the censor is still on. I tried to talk to the TD, but he
>>was not there. I wrote a message on the tournament channel, that my opponenet is
>>censoring me, and I'm leaving. I said if he wants to play, he can apologize on
>>CCC.
>>
>>I did not withdraw from the tournament. I clarified this to Bruce later. Bob can
>>get a point for this game.
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>Amir, this is crap.
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>You walked out of the tourney 10 minutes before it started.  You know damned
>well that Bob would have lifted the censor so the game could be played.
>
>Your actions were extremely childish, and I'm afraid I have lost much of my
>respect for you.
>
>--Peter

 So this censoring thing is not childish?!
 Thanks
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>>Bob's post is not an apology, as he himself says. It's more in the tone of the
>>posts that led to this.
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>>Amir



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