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Subject: Re: Rebel Century is still the strongest against humans

Author: Charles Unruh

Date: 17:56:38 02/07/00

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On February 07, 2000 at 20:42:26, John Warfield wrote:

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>  Unless someone can produce some evidence to the contrary, I still believe
>rebel is clearly better against humans than the other programs. I think the
>combined aegon results as well as the GM Challenge prove this. Computer Vs
>Computer chess proves very little, Evidence is that Annand was able to crush
>fritz but could do very little against Rebel, Yet Fritz consistently defeats
>Rebel, what does all this tell you?

Well firstly i haven't seen Anand play Fritz in a 40/2.  Further i  seriously
doubt(no offense intended) that you can get 5 people around here that will
support the idea that Rebel is stronger than Fritz period in 5 minute games.
Also from looking at actual games, Rebel falls not even for fantastically
brilliant combos but really quite simple ones that are well in the capability of
GM's.  To me if you play good chess you wont get absolutely blown out as Rebel
has in the cadaques tournament.  I think Rebel is a good solid program, and
definitely above 2500 on fast hardware (P500s and above).  Recently Enrique said
that J6 was the only program not to fall into line with his test suite, and this
was because it's the only progam who's positional strength surpassed its
tactical strength.  I then told Enrique that "if Rebels positional strength
didn't surpass its tactical strength then rebel was in trouble".  Enrique
replied that rebel was indeed in trouble :)(Though he made mention of Ed's
patch).   As an analysis engine of my games i think Fritz has the clearest
vision.



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