Author: John Warfield
Date: 18:26:35 02/07/00
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On February 07, 2000 at 20:56:38, Charles Unruh wrote: >On February 07, 2000 at 20:42:26, John Warfield wrote: > >> >> >> Unless someone can produce some evidence to the contrary, I still believe >>rebel is clearly better against humans than the other programs. I think the >>combined aegon results as well as the GM Challenge prove this. Computer Vs >>Computer chess proves very little, Evidence is that Annand was able to crush >>fritz but could do very little against Rebel, Yet Fritz consistently defeats >>Rebel, what does all this tell you? > >Well firstly i haven't seen Anand play Fritz in a 40/2. Further i seriously >doubt(no offense intended) that you can get 5 people around here that will >support the idea that Rebel is stronger than Fritz period in 5 minute games. >Also from looking at actual games, Rebel falls not even for fantastically >brilliant combos but really quite simple ones that are well in the capability of >GM's. To me if you play good chess you wont get absolutely blown out as Rebel >has in the cadaques tournament. I don't think you are referring to Rebel Century! It is every bit as tactically adept as Fritz, now I will admit that rebel 10 may have failed tactically but certainly not Century. All enriques tournament shows is that Ed is correct about the auto-player putting rebel at a disadvantage. I think Rebel is a good solid program, and >definitely above 2500 on fast hardware (P500s and above). Recently Enrique said >that J6 was the only program not to fall into line with his test suite, and this >was because it's the only progam who's positional strength surpassed its >tactical strength. I then told Enrique that "if Rebels positional strength >didn't surpass its tactical strength then rebel was in trouble". Enrique >replied that rebel was indeed in trouble :)(Though he made mention of Ed's >patch). As an analysis engine of my games i think Fritz has the clearest >vision.
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