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Subject: Re: J6 eliminats Illescas- What does Hyatt have to say?

Author: odell hall

Date: 13:13:16 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 10:47:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 02:42:16, Alvaro Polo wrote:
>
>>On February 13, 2000 at 18:05:01, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>On February 13, 2000 at 17:42:24, Bradley Woodward wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 13, 2000 at 16:55:12, John Kilkenny wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>like a regular GM(in other words play REGULAR chess), then YES THEY PLAY GM
>>>>>STRENGTH CHESS!  However once GMs learn their weaknesses they will be able to
>>>>>beat them".  A shocking admission by Hyatt, because the arguement has always
>>>>>been that Comps are GMs at regular chess play!  If GMs could learn the
>>>>>weaknesses of Kasparov and Kasparov had no way to adjust for each opponent.
>>>>
>>>>Why is it that some section of the computer chess community feel the urge to
>>>>turn every victory by a computer over a GM into an attack on Bob Hyatt?
>>>
>>>Bob's in a position he won't be able to defend forever, since hardware advances
>>>alone will eventually cause computers to score >50% against anybody.
>>>
>>>In the case of many arguments, you can argue one way today and the same way
>>>tomorrow, and you know you'll be as right tomorrow as you are today.  But you
>>>can't argue that the tide is out forever, eventually you will have to admit that
>>>it is in.  And this doesn't mean that you were wrong about it being out a while
>>>ago.
>>>
>>>I think that Bob has a different definition of "in" than many of you do.  But he
>>>obviously knows that the tide will come in eventually.
>>>
>>>The sad thing is that when he does decide that as far as he's concerned the tide
>>>is in, many people will declare victory, since for them the tide has been in
>>>forever.  But this is of course not true either.
>>>
>>
>>It is sad, but I sure hope and believe that Bob is intelligent enough not to
>>start an argument with them, explaining the true facts, once they declare
>>"victory" against him.
>>
>>Alvaro
>>
>
>What I find so very amusing is that my "opinion" matters so much to a very
>few.  (IE Odell Hall, etc, on the computer is a GM issue).  If they believe
>so strongly that a computer is a GM, so what about my opinion?  I don't worry
>about theirs.  I would think they wouldn't worry about mine.  But somehow my
>opinion prevents them from sleeping soundly at night or something...
>
>The world is a strange place at times...
>



  Well if you don't think that your opinion should carry any weight then why
continue to Sell yourself as the All-knowing, Never Wrong , Computer chess
Expert.  You speak constantly as if everything you say is written in stone, and
react arrogantly and aggressively when anyone challenges your assumptions as if
they are all facts. Now you are surprised because someone may actually give your
ideals some weight?? The World is indeed a Strange place !






>
>
>
>>>The tide wasn't in at the last Aegon (1997), even though some people were
>>>starting to say that it was.  I don't know if it's in yet, but everyone has to
>>>watch out now or they'll get wet feet, that's for sure.
>>>
>>>bruce




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