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Subject: Re: J6 eliminats Illescas- What does Hyatt have to say?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:39:14 02/14/00

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On February 14, 2000 at 16:13:16, odell hall wrote:

>On February 14, 2000 at 10:47:53, Robert Hyatt wrote:
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>>On February 14, 2000 at 02:42:16, Alvaro Polo wrote:
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>>>On February 13, 2000 at 18:05:01, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 13, 2000 at 17:42:24, Bradley Woodward wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 13, 2000 at 16:55:12, John Kilkenny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>like a regular GM(in other words play REGULAR chess), then YES THEY PLAY GM
>>>>>>STRENGTH CHESS!  However once GMs learn their weaknesses they will be able to
>>>>>>beat them".  A shocking admission by Hyatt, because the arguement has always
>>>>>>been that Comps are GMs at regular chess play!  If GMs could learn the
>>>>>>weaknesses of Kasparov and Kasparov had no way to adjust for each opponent.
>>>>>
>>>>>Why is it that some section of the computer chess community feel the urge to
>>>>>turn every victory by a computer over a GM into an attack on Bob Hyatt?
>>>>
>>>>Bob's in a position he won't be able to defend forever, since hardware advances
>>>>alone will eventually cause computers to score >50% against anybody.
>>>>
>>>>In the case of many arguments, you can argue one way today and the same way
>>>>tomorrow, and you know you'll be as right tomorrow as you are today.  But you
>>>>can't argue that the tide is out forever, eventually you will have to admit that
>>>>it is in.  And this doesn't mean that you were wrong about it being out a while
>>>>ago.
>>>>
>>>>I think that Bob has a different definition of "in" than many of you do.  But he
>>>>obviously knows that the tide will come in eventually.
>>>>
>>>>The sad thing is that when he does decide that as far as he's concerned the tide
>>>>is in, many people will declare victory, since for them the tide has been in
>>>>forever.  But this is of course not true either.
>>>>
>>>
>>>It is sad, but I sure hope and believe that Bob is intelligent enough not to
>>>start an argument with them, explaining the true facts, once they declare
>>>"victory" against him.
>>>
>>>Alvaro
>>>
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>>What I find so very amusing is that my "opinion" matters so much to a very
>>few.  (IE Odell Hall, etc, on the computer is a GM issue).  If they believe
>>so strongly that a computer is a GM, so what about my opinion?  I don't worry
>>about theirs.  I would think they wouldn't worry about mine.  But somehow my
>>opinion prevents them from sleeping soundly at night or something...
>>
>>The world is a strange place at times...
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>  Well if you don't think that your opinion should carry any weight then why
>continue to Sell yourself as the All-knowing, Never Wrong , Computer chess
>Expert.  You speak constantly as if everything you say is written in stone, and
>react arrogantly and aggressively when anyone challenges your assumptions as if
>they are all facts. Now you are surprised because someone may actually give your
>ideals some weight?? The World is indeed a Strange place !
>
>



Yes it is.  And you continue to prove it so.

:)

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>>>>The tide wasn't in at the last Aegon (1997), even though some people were
>>>>starting to say that it was.  I don't know if it's in yet, but everyone has to
>>>>watch out now or they'll get wet feet, that's for sure.
>>>>
>>>>bruce



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