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Subject: Re: Strength of CSTal (little off-topic = quantum physics)

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 08:02:58 02/20/00

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Hi Thostern:
Althoug in general I tend to agree with you, in this case I believe ou are
somewhat pushing things too far. I believe you have some confusion about
determinism, the nature of deterministic events and the degree we can grasp
deterministic causal chains. The fact that maybe we cannot know entirely the
causation chain does not means there is non. If you studied calclus yu know very
well that in its core is grounded in the fiction you can get continuous
processes trought a very great number of finites events. You could say that
calculus does not get, then what really happnes, but in fact get enought on ot
to let us know enough of it. The point is you pout tings in black and white: yu
do not need to know absoltely to know. A good approach is enough most of the
times. Science of any kind is not more than an approach trought models. Does it
means there is not a deterministic area of reality?  Or does it means that
determinism excludes every degree of freedom? At last it depends of the level of
observaton you choose. You does not know how every indivifual particle of as gas
behaves in a combustion chamber, but for the sake of phisics you are Ok with
being capable of knowing about amacroscopis states like pressure, adiabatic
processes, temperaure and so on. Same with chess. Maybe you cannot calculate
every move possible to slve the game, but you know is solvable and so there is
room    to say that a better program is that capable of grasping a bigger amount
 of the relevants features, or, if you want, to perform the most practically
satisfactory calculation.



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