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Subject: Re: what is the definition of a "Professional chess program" authors apprec

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 10:39:32 03/04/00

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On March 04, 2000 at 11:39:51, Pete Galati wrote:

>On March 04, 2000 at 01:53:47, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On March 03, 2000 at 19:40:33, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On March 03, 2000 at 18:27:28, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 03, 2000 at 17:26:51, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 03, 2000 at 17:03:32, Drazen Marovic wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>what is the definition of a "Professional chess program" authors appreciated?
>>>>>
>>>>>The term "Professional chess program" implies that you could make a living using
>>>>>that program.  Name one Chess program that would do that for you, a program that
>>>>>could put bread on the table.
>>>>>
>>>>>If someone says "Professional chess program", they're probably confused, and are
>>>>>probably refering to comercial Chess program, and that could be any program that
>>>>>you have to pay for to own a copy.
>>>>
>>>>Well i don't really agree, various authors/experts such as Ed Shroeder refer to
>>>>their programs as professional chess programs
>>>>>
>>>
>>>This would be a problem with Ed's terminology.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>I can't remember having said this but I am not completely sure. Anyway
>>the term "Professional chess program" isn't that bad as:
>>
>>a) it sounds good :-)
>>
>>b) more serious: mass-market programs focus on the general audience while
>>the so called "Professional chess programs" focus on the more serious
>>chess player.
>>
>>IMO the best example is the CM series. Nice looking graphics, sounds etc,
>>lots of fun but not my first choice when I want to analyze, want to improve
>>my opening theory, maintain my databases.
>>
>>The term "Professional chess program" is a bit misleading definition. The
>>man years spend in the CM series is perhaps a factor 5 or more in comparison
>>with the programs we usually talk about here.
>>
>>Ed
>
>I wouldn't argue your right to call Rebel "professional" Chess programs, I
>certainly take your company more serious than Chessmaster.
>
>I'm just not really sure how this term "professional" ever entered into the
>picture.  Using you as an example, you can call yourself a professional
>programmer, because you make your living as far as I know through your
>programming, or maybe by managing your Chess program company, so that makes you
>a professional, without a doubt.
>
>The problem I see is when I see people calling Chess programs "Professional
>chess program", why is that (?), because it's more serious than a Chess program
>with fluffy graphics?  Ok, that may be true, but there simply is no business in
>the world that I know of that relies on your having a Chess program of a certain
>degree of seriousness.
>
>True, many professional Chessplayers will use Chess programs as sparring
>partners, or use their databases for research, but I don't really think that
>puts those programs into the "professional" catagory, in other words, I don't
>see the Chess programs as being an essential part of any business (other than
>your own that is).
>
>Was this term "Professional chess program" invented here at this forum by
>accident?  I don't see how it applies to any of the commercial programs, other
>than maybe indicating a degree of seriousness.
>
>When Rebel ships a program to the distributer or customer, how is it labled?
>Because, you said "I can't remember having said this" so I assume that Rebel
>programs are _not_ labled "Professional chess program", not that I'd mind if
>they were, it's just that I think it's a term invented here at CCC by someone
>who didn't have a more correct term handy.
>
>Pete

I don't think the term "Professional chess program" is so bad. I am doing
this work since 15 years by profession so if I would label Rebel as a
professional program it sounds justified to me.

From a marketing point of view (speaking in general) the term "Professional
chess program" is just great. I think the term can't be found on my pages
on the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if the text in question is used
so now and then over there. If you find it then just think "marketing"....

Ed



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