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Subject: Re: Detecting "fake" Humans on Fics/ICC

Author: James Robertson

Date: 17:58:01 03/10/00

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On March 10, 2000 at 17:40:15, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On March 10, 2000 at 15:04:52, Andrew Dados wrote:
>
>>On March 10, 2000 at 14:51:21, Will Singleton wrote:
>>
>>>On March 10, 2000 at 13:06:36, Masciulli Gianluigi wrote:
>>>
>>>>Is there a good way to understand if someone use a computer?
>>>>
>>>>(I remember an old tread here some time ago, If someone can tell me
>>>>when I'll try to look on the Archive)
>>>>
>>>>TIA
>>>>
>>>>gianluigi
>>>
>>>It's difficult to figure it out, especially with the craftier cheats.  I will
>>>usually look at move-times using the smoves command on several games.  Constant
>>>move-times, especially in the opening (like 4 or 5 secs per move), are an
>>>indication.  Also, you'll typically see almost no immediate moves.  A long time
>>>taken for the first move can sometimes indicate that the guy is messing around
>>>with the colors.
>>>
>>>Other than time indications, a computer cheat can show a wide variation in
>>>playing strength.  You might see someone rated around 2100 beating up on comps
>>>in the 2500 range, then losing to humans around 1700.
>>>
>>>You could also try running the suspect games with a commercial program, looking
>>>for a lack of tactical errors.
>>>
>>>There are other ways.
>>>
>>>Will
>>
>>One interesting thing I noticed: most (all?) cheaters have no finger notes at
>>all...
>
>Andrew,
>
>I agree with you about finger notes.  Another thing is that cheater very often
>play with increment.  They need some time to consult their prog and then execute
>the moves.  If you see high rated guys avoiding blitz without increment beware,
>you may be playing a cheat.
>
>***  Djordje

Actually, many have finger notes. Take mozartplayer on FICS or TomKat (he now
acknowledges he is a computer, but he played a long time before he got his (C)).

There are others too.

James



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