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Subject: Re: Celeron

Author: Laurence Chen

Date: 08:57:38 03/20/00

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On March 20, 2000 at 09:25:04, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On March 20, 2000 at 08:02:55, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>On March 20, 2000 at 00:52:37, Georg Langrath wrote:
>>
>>>in Aufsess Tournament, Germany many of the programs use Celeron processors. Is
>>>celeron processors as good as Pentium for chessprograms?
>>>
>>>Georg
>>Celeron's have a FSB of 66 MHz and on-die cache built-in of 128K, a Pentium 3,
>>the Katmai type, has a FSB of 100 MHz and a L2 cache of 512K. A celeron is a
>>cheaper version of a Pentium 2, not a Pentium 3.  If you were to run all chips
>
>True.
>
>>in the same clock speed of 66 MHz, the Pentium 2 is much faster than a Pentium 3
>>at that clock speed. However, this is not true for the new Pentium 3 Coppermine
>
>False. The PII and Katmai are virtually identical. One is not much faster than
>the other.
I said at 66 MHZ not at 100 MHz. At 100 MHz, a Pentium 3 is slightly faster than
a P2.  Also because Katmai is .25 micron, it generates a lot of heat, and it is
not very easy to overclock such a chip by using heatsink and fan combo alone.
>
>>chip.  It uses the same on-die cache as the Celeron, however it has 256K of
>>Cache, and it is much faster than a Pentium 3,Katmai, in the same FSB.
>
>Somewhat true. The on-die cache in the CuMine is much better than the on-die
>cache in the Celeron.
>
>>The reason why people buy celeron is OVERCLOCKING, it is very easy to overclock
>>a Celeron to a much higher speed than the specs, also Pentium 2, and Coppermine
>>are much easier to overclock than a Pentium 3, Katmai.
>
>False. The PII and Katmai, being virtually identical, overclock equally poorly.
>The Celeron and the CuMine overclock well because they do not have external
>cache chips that must also be overclocked.
>
>-Tom



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