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Subject: Re: Computer Help (please)

Author: Wayne Lowrance

Date: 22:15:54 03/25/00

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On March 24, 2000 at 22:39:28, Laurence Chen wrote:

>On March 24, 2000 at 21:38:57, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>
>>Forgive me, this is mostly off topic. I need help/advise. Thank you.
>>
>>Topic 1) Probobly discussed by Dr. Bob Hyatt humpteen times, but i cannot find
>>the archives here. I can afford to buy 1 more computer in my life time (I just
>>turned 70 and my family already thinks I am off base, after all they say You do
>>have a 400 mhz pentium 256 mb ram etc etc.) but I want one more computer
>>upgrade. I am weighing my option of a dual at say 500 mhz (celeron I guess)
>>verses a 750 mhz PIII. I was hot to trot for a Athlon 800, but posts here and a
>>visit to my favorite computer systems house discouraged me on the Athylon. They
>>(the system house)will no longer sell systems incorporating the Athlon 800
>>because of temperature problems. (for now at least)
>>
>>If I remember what Dr. Bob has stated here before, crafty ( I guess Jr as well)
>>play around 75 percent for dual's. So that puts a dual to the equivalent (chess
>>equivalent) of 750 mhz, comparing identical with the single pentium III. Am I
>>correct ?
>>
>>So to the point: The following system was quoted to me: and I have a few
>>questions in this regard.
>>
>>CPU-------------- Pentium III 750D--------(Cyber III-750) what is that mean ?
>>         133 MHz AGP VIA   Is that good ? Is this the coppermine thing ?
>>
>>         256k advance transfer cache.   Is that the same as L2 Pipeline if not
>>         Which is better for chess.
>>
>>         256 MB PC 133 SDRAM
>>
>>Hard drive-------10 GB UA66 7200 RPM
>>
>>CD-ROM/DVD-------8x DVD/CD-ROM
>>
>>Video RAM--------32 MB ATI EXP 2000 AGP/D
>>
>>Fax/Modem--------56k Diamond V.90
>>
>>Sound System-----Yamaha Audio PCI 64 Voice
>>
>>The rest is keyboard, mouse, windows 98 operating system and 250 Watt Power andh
>>a 5 year parts & labor guarantee for the system.
>>
>>my cost---------$1,614.00 Plus tax.
>>
>>What you all think ?
>>
>>
>>Topic 2) For Amir Ban and Dr Bob if they had the interest of reading my post and
>>are willing to respond, briefly if they wish and if they dont have data, please
>>make your best guess. Other opinions are very worth while to me as well.
>>
>>Crafty: How would you compare the performance of crafty in the above computer as
>>compared with 500 mhz dual cpu's.
>>
>>Junior6: Same question, how would you compare the performance of Deep Jr with a
>>dual 500 mhz cpu's against Junior6 in the above computer system.
>>
>>
>>Lastly (at last you say) Any suggestions as to a better computer system in that
>>price range or something close (very) to it.
>>
>>Whoops, PS: The graphic accelerator 3d capability is very important for apps
>>running Flight Simulator 2000 etc. Is the above one excellent for this app.
>>
>>I am done
>>
>>Thanks for all especially if you got this Far
>1. If it is an Intel CPU then it is a Coppermine, any Intel CPU 650 MHz and
>above is a Coppermine chip.
>The 256 Cache is an on-die built in cache, and although it is only half of the
>512 Cache, but it is clocked twice as fast than the 512 Cache.  Besides
>coppermine chips only comes with 256K cache.
>The VIA Chipset is much better than the i820 chipset because it provides a much
>cheaper price using SDRAM, unless you can afford the RDRAM for the i820.
>AS for the Video Card, I personnally don't like ATI video cards.  Also if you
>plan to run Windows 2000 make sure that the card is compatible with Windows
>2000, some ATI video cards won't support Windows 2000.
>2. I don't think that dual Celerons are as good as a dual Pentium Xeon or a
>single Pentium III running at the equivalent clock speed which the dual Celerons
>run.  I believe that the problem is that Windows NT does not like Celeron
>processors that much.  Remember that in order to run of a dual processor
>computer you must run Windows NT 4.0 or Windows 2000.
>Hope this helps.
>Laurence

Thank you very much



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