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Subject: Re: Match Junior 6a - Tiger 12e (40 in 2 hr, 20 in 1hr) completed...

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:08:59 03/27/00

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On March 26, 2000 at 11:45:38, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On March 25, 2000 at 23:13:49, Tina Long wrote:
>
>>On March 25, 2000 at 14:28:13, James Robertson wrote:
>>
>>>On March 25, 2000 at 13:41:28, Roger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Would tablebases for Tiger have changed this result at all?
>>>>
>>>>Roger
>>>
>>>Maybe a quarter of a point.... My experience with tablebases is that if the
>>>program is moderately smart it doesn't benefit tremendously from them.
>>>
>>>James
>>>
>>Ed Schroder said about 6 months ago that Tablebases were worth about 10 points
>>on the SSDF scale.
>>
>>I'm 70% sure he said that! I'm 100% sure that Ed said once that something was
>>worth very little rating points.
>>
>>I'm glad I could add some real detail to this discussion.
>>
>>Tina Long
>
>
>As far as I know, endgames are not Tiger's weak point.
>
>One thing I'm sure about: as far as playing strength is the subject, I have a
>long list of ideas that, in my opinion, will give much more than tablebases.
>
>It does not matter if tablebases are easy to implement or not (they are not,
>unless you want to do it the dirty way, and I won't), I don't see the point in
>working on this before I fix more important things.
>
>
>
>    Christophe


I am not wild about helping the competition, but you have one huge hold.  You
don't know that KPB vs K is a draw if the wrong colored bishop is on the board.
Ditto for KPPB vs K, assuming all P's are rook pawns.  I have seen Crafty draw
lost endings when you let it swindle you into such an ending.    One ending
was you had a king, and pawns on a and b file + wrong bishop.  Crafty had a pawn
on the a file.  It pushed and you took with your b pawn rather than just pushing
past it and winning...

Consider that my tip of the year.  :)

There are others.  But I also have them too.  :)



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