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Subject: Re: White to Mate in 37 or less.

Author: José Antônio Fabiano Mendes

Date: 15:27:01 04/04/00

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On April 02, 2000 at 19:13:36, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:

>[D]8/3qk3/8/8/3NN3/2N2N2/8/4K3 w
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>
>Both Rebel 10c and Hiarcs 7.32 choose K to e2.  Rebel solves it in 37 moves and
>Hiarcs takes 24 moves.
>
>I guess that most of us will never see this position in over-the-board play.  I
>have not seen it as a chess puzzle but I am sure that somebody did this in the
>past.  I do not think that it is solvable unless the white king comes into play.
>
>
>Have fun.
>
>
>Tim Frohlick

     A.A.Troitzky[Chess Studies,1937(page 126)]
[D]2k5/8/3KN3/2NNN3/8/8/3q4/8 w - -
Troitzky puts this position forward as a standard one for
forcing a win with four knights against a queen.He writes,
"The win is achieved by moving the whole position to the
left."This is the method wherever the black queen is
situated and provided the black king is on a7,a8,b8 or c8.
Source:"Test Tube Chess",A.J.Roycroft,1972,page 214,Stackpole Books



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