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Subject: Re: Dutch championship with Fritz!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 19:10:42 04/20/00

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On April 20, 2000 at 14:47:39, Mike S. wrote:

>On April 20, 2000 at 07:18:19, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>
>>(...)
>>2) Chess programs either participates in special tournaments (ie. Aegon) or in
>>open tournaments where the other contestants know they're going to play a
>>computer. If GM's don't like it, they'll have to try another tournament.
>>(...) Option 2 should ensure the access of chess programs to
>>important tournaments the next 5-10 years, or until the programs becomes too
>>strong for a human competition. Then there would be no point of allowing
>>programs to compete.
>
>What is suggested here, is a kind of apartheid amongst chess players. Banning
>computers means banning humans also: The programmers and producers. Furthermore,
>if no computers participate in top level GM tournaments, how would you know when
>they are "too" strong?
>
>Imagine this would have happenend 15 years ago, with a 1950 elo chess computer
>and it's company sponsoring the championship (which is the case now, I assume).

NEWSFLASH!  this _did_ happen in 1984, to yours truly.  I have given the
details before, but can repeat them if you didn't catch the discussion...
Cray Blitz won a state championship in 1984 and caused an uproar that lasted
2 years.  It was often mentioned in the USCF policy discussions about what to
do about computers.  USCF decided that no action was better than a possibly
wrong action, which led to the death of computers in US events...





>I don't think that anyone in the dutch chess scene would panic then. Therefore
>it's clear to me, that now, the *fear* of loosing (or see one's fellow dutch
>chess heroes loose) against the 2600+ machine monster is the reason for this
>ridiculous anti computer campaign. It's a shame.
>
>Regards,
>M.Scheidl


There are several sides.  Yes computers are strong.  But there are other
considerations.  Computers don't get tired.  Playing one can cost you a lot
of money in the prize fund..



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