Author: Michael Cummings
Date: 06:06:09 04/22/00
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On April 22, 2000 at 08:11:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>On April 21, 2000 at 21:01:17, Michael Cummings wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2000 at 10:59:32, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On April 21, 2000 at 08:39:38, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Fritz took the CM apart in this game. CM seems to miss
>>>>15. Qb3+ it's 14th move....Nf8 is questionable.
>>>>
>>>>Score F6a 2-1/2 CM 6666 1-1/2 one to play.
>>>>
>>>>[Event "Easter Tourney blitz 60 Final"]
>>>>[Site "Scarb"]
>>>>[Date "2000.04.21"]
>>>>[Round "Final"]
>>>>[White "Fritz 6a"]
>>>>[Black "CM6666"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[PlyCount "65"]
>>>>
>>>>} 1. e4 {0} 1... Nf6 {10} 2. e5 {0} 2... Nd5 {4}
>>>>3. d4 {0} 3... d6 {4} 4. Nf3 {0} 4... g6 {4} 5. Bc4 {0} 5... Nb6 {5} 6. Bb3 {0}
>>>>6... Bg7 {4} 7. a4 {0} 7... dxe5 {173} 8. a5 {0} 8... N6d7 {82} 9. Bxf7+ {0}
>>>>9... Kxf7 {26} 10. Ng5+ {0} 10... Kg8 {29} 11. Ne6 {0} 11... Qe8 {35} 12. Nxc7
>>>>{0} 12... Qd8 {54} 13. Nxa8 {0} 13... exd4 {42} 14. c3 {0} 14... Nf8 {80} 15.
>>>>Qb3+ {1.25/11 175} 15... Ne6 {61} 16. O-O {1.31/12 39} 16... Na6 {37} 17. cxd4
>>>>{1.47/11 194} 17... Kf8 {127} 18. Be3 {1.78/12 112} 18... Nxd4 {7} 19. Bxd4 {
>>>>1.75/12 61} 19... Bxd4 {7} 20. Nc3 {1.75/12 65} 20... Nc5 {67} 21. Qa3 {
>>>>1.91/12 28} 21... Kg7 {152} 22. Nb5 {2.50/12 125} 22... Bg4 {6} 23. Nac7 {
>>>>2.66/11 71} 23... e5 {97} 24. Nxd4 {2.94/11 38} 24... Qxc7 {35} 25. Nb5 {
>>>>3.03/12 43} 25... Qe7 {29} 26. Rfc1 {3.22/12 0} 26... Rc8 {61} 27. Nxa7 {
>>>>3.75/12 0} 27... Rc7 {57} 28. Nb5 {4.06/12 0} 28... Rc8 {97} 29. Rc2 {
>>>>4.19/11 40} 29... Bf5 {57} 30. Rc3 {5.00/12 0} 30... Be4 {53} 31. Re1 {
>>>>5.41/11 0} 31... Bd5 {48} 32. b4 {5.94/12 0} 32... Qg5 {31} 33. g3 {6.00/12 0}
>>>>1-0
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>>Finally I verified your assumption that CM6000.OBK is the strongest book tuned
>>>just for CM6000. I tested the same CMQueen+ setting using the two candidates
>>>book openings CM6000.OBK vs Strong.obk which I thought were the strongest
>>>available in the Chessmaster library using my AMD Ahlon 800 Mhz. The time for
>>>the match was game in 10 minutes per side 50 games total.
>>>
>>>Thanks.
>>
>>I have not paid much notice to these games, but which book did you think was the
>>strongest. CM6000.OBK is the strongest, the mentor.OBK or whatever is called is
>>exactly the same, but it has a few notes that the help and the tutorial uses. So
>>I have seen some people say the mentor is stronger than CM6000.OBK, thats funny
>>and strange when it is the same book.
>>
>>I just hope you have used satisfactory settings, do not use any more than 2 meg
>>hash for these short games, otherwise this will affect the games if they are too
>>big.
>>
>>When you play about 200 more games, then I will look more closely at your
>>results, I have played enough games battling chessmaster against chessmaster
>>personalities to know 50 games means very little. Cause when you play those 50
>>games again, the result can vary dramatically.
>>
>>You want to know another result that is also funny, over 20 20minutes games, the
>>Karpov personality beat the Chessmaster by winning 14 games ?????
>
>I do not care much for the original Chessmaster personality, since it lost very
>bad to my CMQueen+ personality setting Using the CM6000.OBK book, long before I
>started to post my finding on this message board, therefore, only then knowing
>that I discover this strong setting I Started to switch from one book to another
>just to find out that the original CM6000.OBK (default book) is indeed the
>strongest.
>
>PS: If you still remember how to set the CMQueen+ setting, Please do me a favor
>and pit it against the Karpov personality, recommend to use a time setting of a
>minimum of 1 hr/per side, pit it as many times as you are satisfied or in the
>case when one setting is winning by a large margin, then it becomes useless to
>continue playing beyong 50 games.
When you play personalities to see which is stronger, you should do it this way,
otherwise your results can vary greatly, and most of the time, especially a
short time settings, up to 15% of the games could be doubles of games previously
played.
So if you were playing your CMQ+ vs CM6000, have CM6K play white, finish the
game, then have your CMQ+ play white from the end of the opening CM6K played in
the previous game.
Testing any other way is not acceptable (to me that is). My way your results
reflect purely on your personality settings and nothing else.
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