Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 10:40:01 04/24/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 01:34:09, Pete Galati wrote:
>On April 24, 2000 at 00:51:30, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2000 at 00:24:05, Pete Galati wrote:
>>
>>>On April 23, 2000 at 23:33:56, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 17:38:23, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 16:54:26, John Coffey wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 16:15:41, Pete Galati wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On April 23, 2000 at 13:31:31, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You can download old programs for Spectrum Z80 here:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Goal/2054/notas/nota01.htm
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Pierre
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The old Spectrum Z80 computers have an enviable collection of prorams from it's
>>>>>>>era available to them. And to download all of the 18 programs only uses 284Kb
>>>>>>>of file space!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know anyone with a Spectrum Z80.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Pete
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have one, but there is no way to get the data into the spectrum nor would
>>>>>>I care to. The only real advantage I can see is to use emulation for someone
>>>>>>who wants a less than master strength opponent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>John Coffey
>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I don't actually need any more "less than master strength" programs. From
>>>>>that era we have Cyrus (in that collection) and Psion available for running in
>>>>>Dos, both are stronger than me I hate to say.
>>>>>
>>>>>Yeah, I was looking at that site and thinking, ok, but how do you get them from
>>>>>your pc to your Spectrum? There is probably a way to do that, but I'll never
>>>>>need to come up with it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Pete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I guess nobody will do that. You just download a Spectrum emulator and run it on
>>>>your PC...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>I'd have to look for one, it might be interesting. I'd have to take a closer
>>>look at the site to see if they have one there. If not, Simtel might have one.
>>>
>>>What I noticed a while back was that in order to use a TRS-80 emulator you
>>>needed to get a ROM, and since that has a copyright, you pretty much needed the
>>>original computer but there were odd little ways around that. I have no idea if
>>>a Spectrum emulator would have similar obstacles.
>>>
>>>Pete
>>
>>
>>Unfortunately yes, you will have the same problem.
>>
>>Yesterday a friend of mine brought to me a CD full of emulators, including
>>TRS-80 and Spectrum. But the ROMs codes were not on the CD for Copyright
>>reasons.
>>
>>You'll find an emulator for Spectrum easily on the Internet, but it will be more
>>difficult to get the ROM code.
>>
>>I wanted to try the TRS-80 emulator, but so far I did not manage to do it. I
>>haven't got the ROM yet.
>>
>>I wonder if emulating a hardware that IS copyrighted is a violation of
>>Copyright. If it is the case, then all these emulators are illegal.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Christophe
>
>I would have to download some of the files and look at it again because my
>memory's getting a bit foggy about the subject, but at Simtel, at their
>Emulators to run in Dos page http://www.simtel.net/simtel.net/msdos/emulate.html
> I think that this one has a way that you can make your own ROM for TRS-80 $
>CoCo, and then one of the other emulators mentioned this one as being a possible
>way around the ROM problem. "Dragon/CoCo Emulator & Debugger v2.02 EGA 486+"
>but I might be wrong about which one that is.
>
>It would posibly be a copyright problem for you to have a ROM for a computer
>that you did not purchase, but if you bought the computer that you are using the
>ROM from for your emulator (in _your_ pc computer) then I don't think you have a
>problem because you would afterall own that copy of the ROM.
Yes I owned a TRS-80 until 1984. But I sold it then, so I'm not sure I have the
right to have a copy of the ROM code now.
>The _problem_ would be if you created an emulator and distributed it _with_ the
>ROM. So your friend's CD wouldn't have them. That's irritating, it would be
>nice if someone would find a way to get ROMs from completly obselete computers
>released to public domain. I'm not holding my breath.
Yes, I think some companies like Radio Shack could release their ROM code into
the public domain. These computers (TRS-80 for example) are not sold anymore so
the company would not suffer any financial damage from releasing the ROM code.
Christophe
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