Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 19:18:36 04/24/00
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On April 24, 2000 at 18:58:41, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >On April 24, 2000 at 16:12:46, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 24, 2000 at 15:39:41, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2000 at 14:15:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>You can prove that blitz ratings are _not_ good predictors for standard ratings >>>>in every case. And _that_ was the issue. Bertil mentioned Genius and Nimzo >>>>as two cases. Ed added Rebel as a third. I had already added crafty as the >>>>first name mentioned... So I don't care if, on some occasions, a blitz rating >>>>does predict a standard rating. I care more about on some occasions, a blitz >>>>rating does _not_ predict a standard rating. >>> >>>So you got a list of people who don't care for blitz matches. Maybe they have >>>some anecdotal evidence showing that blitz matches are useless. But has anything >>>seriously been done to prove this? >>> >>>Experiments have shown that computer-computer match results can swing wildly, >>>even if you play 100 games. So if you really want to prove that blitz match >>>results are useless, it seems to me that you would have to play two matches of >>>at least 100 games each between two programs. And that would just prove that the >>>blitz results are useless for _those two programs playing against each other_. >>>It would take a tremendous amount of effort to prove that blitz results are >>>useless in general, even if you only take the top dozen or so programs into >>>consideration. >>> >>>>enough said... >>> >>>You're not allowed to end discussions here. >>> >>>-Tom >> >> >>Who said "blitz matches are _useless_???" I said "blitz matches do not show >>how the same two programs will do at longer time controls." Care to join the >>right conversation? And I can certainly end a discussion here from my end... > >My apologies. I thought you could make the logical "leap of faith" and tack on >the necessary "... for predicting performance at longer time controls." > >-Tom I love these back and forth threads. Two guys sharing viewpoints in an atmosphere of mutual respect and admiration. bruce
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