Author: leonid
Date: 11:50:19 04/25/00
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On April 25, 2000 at 14:08:44, KarinsDad wrote: >On April 25, 2000 at 09:33:03, leonid wrote: > >>On April 24, 2000 at 17:58:43, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote: >> >>>http://www.cs.yale.edu/op-ed/how_hard_is_chess.html JAFM >> >>Very liked this article. In short it say that computer will be never so smart as >>human and human will be never surpassed by creature that itself created. >> >>Only reason for my happiness I see more in psychological side of me, as human, >>that in pure logic. Who will not like to see himself as unique and impossible to >>imitate crature? Everybody! About the conclusion that computer created by human >>could never be over its initial creator, this is a tricky one. If one day >>squirrel will ask itself one human question: Can some machine, created by me, >>start jumping from tree to tree like squirrel? Or can some machine overcome >>squirrel by flying over entire forest? Response will be categorical, no! No way! >>Partially because it is natural for every animal to think that it is unique and >>created by God. In the same time making the airplane is too greate project for >>squirrel thinking capacity. Beyond its imagination as well, after continuous >>cuts in public education, done by federal gouvernment, during the last 10 years. >> >>Leonid. > >From the article: > >"The gap between human and surrogate is permanent and will never be closed. >Machines will continue to make life easier, healthier, richer and more puzzling. >And human beings will continue to care, ultimately, about the same things they >always have: about themselves, about one another and, many of them, about God. >On those terms, machines have never made a difference. And they never will." > >People also once said that we would never get to the moon. We would never break >the sound barrier. Etc., etc., etc. > >The point is that nobody really knows. Maybe a machine will actually think one >day. Maybe sooner than people imagine. Maybe the God(s) that a lot of people >worship is actually a machine that was able to evolve itself beyond the laws of >physics until it could actually create a reality. Maybe we are inside the mind >of that machine right now. Who knows? > >KarinsDad :) God for me is nothing more that the next programmer that had bad habit to do his code work in rash. Sometime I do the same. After available data, he did his programming in only 7 days. He never came back, after the same source, to fix his bugs. Human is nothing more that complicated and automatic machine capable to reproduce itself. When we speak about creation by human the next machine, even more sofisticated that human, I see here few questions. Is human itself capable of doing something of this magnitude? Response - not that sure. Maybe it is truly out of its capability and motivation. Other question. Can be artificially created something more advanced that human being in general? Here I see two responses. First: Never, ever! This time after my pcichological drive. The second one, this time after simple logic: Why not! For sure! Leonid.
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