Author: Dan Ellwein
Date: 13:35:15 04/25/00
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On April 25, 2000 at 14:50:19, leonid wrote: >On April 25, 2000 at 14:08:44, KarinsDad wrote: > >>On April 25, 2000 at 09:33:03, leonid wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2000 at 17:58:43, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote: >>> >>>>http://www.cs.yale.edu/op-ed/how_hard_is_chess.html JAFM >>> >>>Very liked this article. In short it say that computer will be never so smart as >>>human and human will be never surpassed by creature that itself created. >>> >>>Only reason for my happiness I see more in psychological side of me, as human, >>>that in pure logic. Who will not like to see himself as unique and impossible to >>>imitate crature? Everybody! About the conclusion that computer created by human >>>could never be over its initial creator, this is a tricky one. If one day >>>squirrel will ask itself one human question: Can some machine, created by me, >>>start jumping from tree to tree like squirrel? Or can some machine overcome >>>squirrel by flying over entire forest? Response will be categorical, no! No way! >>>Partially because it is natural for every animal to think that it is unique and >>>created by God. In the same time making the airplane is too greate project for >>>squirrel thinking capacity. Beyond its imagination as well, after continuous >>>cuts in public education, done by federal gouvernment, during the last 10 years. >>> >>>Leonid. >> >>From the article: >> >>"The gap between human and surrogate is permanent and will never be closed. >>Machines will continue to make life easier, healthier, richer and more puzzling. >>And human beings will continue to care, ultimately, about the same things they >>always have: about themselves, about one another and, many of them, about God. >>On those terms, machines have never made a difference. And they never will." >> >>People also once said that we would never get to the moon. We would never break >>the sound barrier. Etc., etc., etc. >> >>The point is that nobody really knows. Maybe a machine will actually think one >>day. Maybe sooner than people imagine. Maybe the God(s) that a lot of people >>worship is actually a machine that was able to evolve itself beyond the laws of >>physics until it could actually create a reality. Maybe we are inside the mind >>of that machine right now. Who knows? >> >>KarinsDad :) > >God for me is nothing more that the next programmer that had bad habit to do his >code work in rash. Sometime I do the same. After available data, he did his >programming in only 7 days. He never came back, after the same source, to fix >his bugs. actually... it was 6 days... i guess He had to take a day of rest after all that 'rashing' He was doin'... :) the pilgrim > >Human is nothing more that complicated and automatic machine capable to >reproduce itself. When we speak about creation by human the next machine, even >more sofisticated that human, I see here few questions. > >Is human itself capable of doing something of this magnitude? Response - not >that sure. Maybe it is truly out of its capability and motivation. > >Other question. Can be artificially created something more advanced that human >being in general? Here I see two responses. First: Never, ever! This time after >my pcichological drive. The second one, this time after simple logic: Why not! >For sure! > >Leonid.
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