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Subject: Re: Pathetic

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 20:11:45 05/08/00

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On May 08, 2000 at 19:48:38, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

[snip]
>>
>>He could. But Mr. Bosboom offered a draw. He let 30 minutes run off his clock.
>>It would seem that such a decision would be arbitrary at best (why not penalize
>>GMs who play 15 moves and then agree on a draw?).
>>
>>KarinsDad :)
>
>You can't be serious.  Have you _ever_ seen a human 'in a serious contest'
>resign after only four moves.  Unless he played class F chess :-).  Not a 2450+
>player, definitely.  Bosboom's behaviour was not gentlemanly, nor was it
>productive.


His decision. Not yours. He made a point. He stuck to his principles. I applaud
him for that. When people stand up for their principles, they often are not
gentlemanly.

My point of view (which you may feel free to disagree with) is that computer
game programs are for playing games, not for human competitions. I have no
problem with people setting up human/computer tournaments at all. I would
personally have a problem with my national tournament allowing computers to play
in it. I am not anti-computer. Rather, I am pro-human.

I think a lot of members of this forum have started to equate human chess
players rights with human chess programmers rights. Sorry. The programmers have
no right to inflict their beast du jour on anyone else. Whether someone else
plays a program should be the choice of the human player, not the programmer,
not the chess association trying to find sponsers, not you, not me.

A lot of time, it is hard for us hobbyists to separate our hobby from reality.
Our hobby is fun. But we do not have the right to inflict our desire to analyze
computer/human games on the players. Bottom line.


  _No one_ gained anything. Everybody lost.  Especially this forum
>which would actually be very much interested in  a genuine playing performance
>by Fritz (or _any other top_ program) in such a strong tournament vs humans.
>
>***  Djordje


Yes, it would have been nice to analyze another game. But we really did not lose
anything since one of the players made a decision to not give us a game. Try to
look at the big picture and not at our vested interest desire to look at yet
another game. It's only a game Djordje. In the long run, the chess players will
gain more from Bosboom's method of protest than we would have gained from one
more computer/human game to analyze.

KarinsDad :)



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