Author: Wayne Lowrance
Date: 17:11:45 05/09/00
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On May 09, 2000 at 12:18:04, Pete R. wrote: >On May 09, 2000 at 11:40:21, Jeroen Noomen wrote: > >>On May 09, 2000 at 11:19:57, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >> >>>Dear Jeroen, >> >>>Could you please point at some obvious mistakes in this game? >> >>Yes, that the game took place was an obvious mistake! >> >>>Could you also tell me whether you had anticipated Black's 11...f4? >> >>No. >> >>>I am pretty sure that Van der Doel was going for a kill against the 'stupid' >comp >> >>I am pretty sure Van der Doel absolutely didn't mind losing. Besides, another >>'quick win' by the machine is going to be the next laugh about in the press >>tomorrow. This morning's De Volkskrant (one of the largest dutch news papers) >>read in the sports section: "Fritz spoils atmosphere in the chess championship". >> >>>by giving up on the f2 pawn and getting two pieces for the Rook which he could >have been activating later on in the game. However Fritzy opened up the g->file, not the f-file! What a laugh... >> >>Yeah, what a laugh this championship! The computer will win it, with 8,5 out of >>11, with one win by forfeit, and 3 wins within 15 moves. Because Van der Doel >>will not be the last one: Also Dimitri Reinderman is against the participation. >>Good luck with your nice win! Enjoy it. >> >>>I think, as some other people here, that Van der Doel was nicely >>>outsmarted... >> >>I think that enormous damage has been done to chess, computer chess and my >>national federation. That's my main concern. >> >> >>>PS: I would have rooted for Rebel as well had it been in the Champs too. I >>>love watching top programs playing strong human players :-) >> >>Seeing the reactions, the protests, the opposition and the negative publicity, I >>think Ed Schröder and I would not think about it for 1 second to take part! No, >>I prefer games here at the internet against IGM's who want to play. >> >>Jeroen >> >> >>PS Sorry for my sarcastic remarks, but I really feel that my own federation has >>betrayed me and my fellow chess club members. This is sad. > >Well, I admit that I do not know the politics behind all this. Fritz was >allowed to participate over the objections of the players perhaps, or something >like this? Whatever, but if this is the case then a player should either refuse >to play the machine as a protest (or resign on move one), or else fight like a >man and play to win. I do not agree with speculation that this was an intended >loss, I think the great move f4! was overlooked and the game was in fact lost at >9. Na4. Not easy to see. Now if he wasn't trying his best, that simply >reflects on him. Despite my disdain for some aspects of Kasparov's personality, >I know he would never "let" anything or anyone beat him intentionally once he >sat down to play. It is childish and not the mark of a true competitor. >Therefore I think it is insulting to Van der Doel to assume that he lost >intentionally. If in fact he did, then he is insulting himself. Well said I for 1 concur Wayne
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