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Subject: Re: "Busting" computer engines and other pointless activities

Author: KarinsDad

Date: 11:52:10 05/11/00

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On May 11, 2000 at 04:55:07, blass uri wrote:

[snip]
>
>I was in the past a beta tester of Junior and I found holes in the program.
>I found also after analyzing Rebel's game in the Isaeli league a hole in Rebel.
>
>I think that in most of the cases programmers cannot spend two hours to fix the
>hole.
>
>Amir Ban did not fix some holes that I told him more than a one year ago.
>Ed told me that he hope to fix the hole that I found in the next version so I
>guess that it is clearly more than 2 hours of work.
>
>I believe that I can help programmers by finding holes in their program and
>giving them ideas to help their program but I do not like to do it for nothing.
>
>I have also many ideas what to change when I am sure that part of them are
>productive for chess programs and I posted some of them here.
>
>I will agree in the future to be part of a team for a chess program only if I
>can get part of the money when it becomes commercial.
>Most of the job is of the programmer and I expect him(her) to earn most of the
>money.
>
>Uri

I think the problem here is one of the role you want to play, and the role the
programmers want you to play.

The programmers want you to be a free beta tester if you wish.

You want to be a free beta tester with design and bug fix input, or a paid beta
tester with no design or bug fix input, or even best of both worlds, a paid beta
tester with design and bug fix input.

I think the only way that you are going to be satisfied with this is to write
your own program. Expecting other people to credit you with finding holes in
their program, or expecting them to fix holes that you have found in a timely
manner, or expecting them to implement your design ideas is probably
unrealistic.

KarinsDad :)




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