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Subject: Re: Tiviakov vs. Fritz

Author: Francesco Di Tolla

Date: 01:52:38 05/18/00

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On May 17, 2000 at 09:45:16, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>No again: also doing it in the "worng way" is not correct. 9 explicitly states
>>that one must not disturb referring to article 12
>
>
>I see no "disturbing" here.  The rules allow a draw offer at any point, so long
>as it is made on the clock of the player offering the draw.  But even if it
>is not offered correctly, a single draw offer is not cause for any sanction,
>because one is not considered significant disturbance.  Repeated offers on the
>opponent's clock would be cause for sanctions of course... but not just one.

Sorry but again, just one at the wrong moment, can be a disturbance.

>Just look at the position.  A simple pawn race where you promote first is easy
>to win in a minute.  This position was _not_ a simple pawn race or mate.  It
>was still full of potential problems for both sides.  I would be happy to test
>my hypothesis by playing _any_ GM you care to find from that position on ICC.
>Give them 2 minutes on their clock, give Crafty 30 minutes on its clock.  I
>would expect a tactical oversight and would expect Crafty to at _least_ draw
>that position with that kind of time handicap...

I would be happy too, but I would have preferred to see Tiviakov to play
undisturbed (again, if he was disturbed).

>So we _always_ assume dark motives???  Seems to be a prevalent idea nowadays.

I don't, in this case. I just stated Tiviakov protest had some grounds. I don't
claim his request for a win is correct (still penalties can imply also a
declaration of a lost game), but hi was not necessarely "whining" he "might" be
right to say he was disturbed.

regards
Franz



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