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Subject: Re: Khalifman and Gelfand on computer

Author: blass uri

Date: 13:55:47 05/21/00

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On May 21, 2000 at 16:16:39, Pete R. wrote:

>On May 20, 2000 at 13:16:29, blass uri wrote:
>
>>On May 20, 2000 at 10:54:42, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>On May 20, 2000 at 10:28:48, Pierre Bourget wrote:
>>>
>>>>Read what they think here:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.zeitschriftschach.de/fritz-eng.htm#Khalifman
>>>>
>>>>Pierre
>>>
>>>Thank you, a very informative link. Nice to see that they both agree with my
>>>opinions :o).
>>>
>>>Best wishes..
>>>Mogens
>>
>>Boris Galfend's opinion:
>>main strenght of chess programs (Fritz, Junior etc) are outside the program
>>itself.
>>
>>I disagree.
>>The most simple programs can play well without book.
>>
>>TSCP that is a weak free program(the idea behind tscp is not to have a good
>>program but to help beginners)has a better evaluation function in the opening
>>relative to Deep Junior.
>>
>>I believe that the main reason that the programmers of Fritz and Junior did not
>>care about adding knowledge in the opening(like not getting out with the queen)
>>is the fact that they know from experience that they do not play without book.
>
>I am not familiar with Junior, but disagree strongly about Fritz.  He plays
>*very* well without an opening book, in fact he will play right along the lines
>of opening theory, Ruy Lopez, Queen's Gambit, etc all without book, and in most
>cases will choose the strongest theoretical move.  Other programs will make bad
>moves in the opening without a book, but Fritz not only plays well but shows an
>appropriate evaluation as well.  Playing a bad move to get out of book early
>against Fritz is likely to backfire much of the time, IMO.

I remember a game of Sos against Fritz in the last dutch computer championship
when fritz got out with the queen early.

Fritz won the game but not because of the opening.

I am not sure if it was Fritz or Quest but I am sure that the programmer was the
same.

Uri



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