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Subject: Re: Fritz SSS uses *SSS?

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 08:58:25 05/22/00

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On May 21, 2000 at 00:09:00, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On May 19, 2000 at 12:59:05, Dave Gomboc wrote:
>
>>On May 15, 2000 at 20:24:21, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On May 15, 2000 at 18:44:14, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 15, 2000 at 17:34:12, Bas Hamstra wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Frans Morsch wouldn't really try alternatives for good old alphabeta, would he?
>>>>>
>>>>>By the way, I read somewhere that someone obtained good results doing alphabeta
>>>>>near the root and best-first minimax near the leaves. Has anyone tried that, or
>>>>>is it nonsense? Doing only best-first MM was apparently too selective.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Bas Hamstra.
>>>>
>>>>The authors of SSS (State Space Search) claim it is superior to
>>>>alpha/beta. Maybe in the meantime there are improvements, who knows.
>>>>I will have to read the article again.
>>>>
>>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>By giving infinite hash table, SSS* becomes equivalent to MTD(f) (they search
>>>the same tree). This is an incredible result, but has been demonstrated by Aske
>>>Plaat. SSS* requires to store all the visited nodes during the search, which
>>>makes it practically unusable for real life. MTD(f) just requires to have a big
>>>hash table, which is practically doable.
>>
>>Actually, Aske didn't himself create the proof.  The full details are in his
>>Ph.D. thesis.  The result is still incredible, though! :-)
>>
>>Dave
>
>
>You are probably right. I remember I read some very interesting pages from him,
>and they are available on the Internet. I don't remember where, but it should be
>easy to find.

http://www.cs.vu.nl/~aske/pubs.html


>
>
>    Christophe



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