Author: stuart taylor
Date: 15:31:43 05/22/00
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On May 21, 2000 at 22:48:20, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 21, 2000 at 21:09:29, Michael Neish wrote: > >> >>Hi, >> >>No they're not playing again (for the moment), although we probably all wish >>they would. >> >>I'd just like to ask something about the game. We all know how decisively Van >>Wely took Fritz apart in the recent Dutch Championships. There was a lot of >>talk about computers failing miserably at this sort of position. >> >>I may have missed something, but I can't remember reading anything about how >>Fritz should have defended the position, i.e., what a strong player would have >>done. >> >>If programmers are to eliminate this yawning hole in their evaluations, they >>need to know what to patch up or rewrite. Unfortunately for us weak players >>it's not only a programming problem but lack of understanding of the game that >>lets us down. >> >>So if there are any half-way decent players out there who are interested in the >>game, could you please let us know what a GM (or strong player) would have done >>in Fritz's place? (I think we need something more detailed than "stop White's >>Pawn storm".) >> >>Game follows below ...... >> >>Cheers, >> >>Mike. >> > > >There are a couple of obvious things. > >1. Bg4 is silly. After f3, it has to retreat. > >2. after f4, black needs to play ef, rather than allowing the pawn to be >pushed to f5. After f5, white has lots of space on the kingside, and the pawn >roller is hard to stop. Black, meanwhile, has a locked center to play with and >has a hard time defending on the kingside with so little space there. > >f5 is the kind of move we would see on ICC all the time vs GM/IM players.. >It is something that you have to avoid, or get rolled into a small ball most >every time. > > > > >>---------- >> >>[Event "Dutch championship"] >>[Site "?"] >>[Date "2000.??.??"] >>[Round "?"] >>[White "Van Wely"] >>[Black "Fritz SSS"] >>[Result "1-0"] >>[ECO "A25"] >>[WhiteElo "2646"] >>[PlyCount "49"] >> >>1. c4 e5 2. g3 Nf6 3. Bg2 Nc6 4. Nc3 Bb4 5. a3 Bxc3 6. bxc3 O-O 7. e4 a6 8. a4 >>d6 9. d3 Bg4 10. f3 Bd7 11. Ne2 Qc8 12. h3 b6 13. f4 Be6 14. f5 Bd7 15. g4 Ne8 >>16. Ng3 Qd8 17. g5 Bc8 18. h4 f6 19. Qh5 Na5 20. Ra3 Qe7 21. Nf1 Nc6 22. Ne3 >>Qd7 23. g6 h6 24. Ng4 Ra7 25. Rg1 1-0 Is Fritz sss proven to be a better program than Fritz 6a, or other top programs? I know that Fritz 5.32 plays alot differently-as I followed it with that program. It looks more sense than some of the moves of Fritz sss. I don't know about e:f, but it doesn't play Bg4, or many other moves. And surely there are other programs which would not have lost that game. So is Fritz sss the top representative of Fritz really?
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