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Subject: Re: ICCA

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 12:47:41 05/30/00

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On May 30, 2000 at 10:04:43, Pete Galati wrote:

>On May 30, 2000 at 01:16:18, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On May 29, 2000 at 18:12:30, Don Beal wrote:
>>
>>>On May 29, 2000 at 17:32:00, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>>>On May 29, 2000 at 13:51:40, Don Beal wrote:
>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>Now some of my opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Like other readers of the CCC forum we choose whether to, when, and
>>>>>when not, to read CCC messages.  I personally think it is not
>>>>>reasonable of CCC members to expect that any message about the ICCA
>>>>>will receive an ICCA response the same day.  So complaints about
>>>>>"the ICCA should be here" I regard as mischief-making.  I AM here.
>>>>>What's your grudge?
>>>>
>>>>I think you missed the point. Nobody (that I noticed) was complaining
>>>>about the time it takes for the ICCA to reply to a post here. The
>>>>complaint is that the ICCA does not have a "presence" here.
>>>
>>>Yes, it is reasonable to ask for more ICCA "presence" here.
>>>
>>>I think it would be helpful to distinguish between the ICCA board
>>>and the ICCA.  The ICCA is _all_ its members as well as the board
>>>members.  I'd like to encourage ICCA members to discuss ICCA matters
>>>here. It doesn't have to be board members doing all the posting.
>>>ICCA members could use this forum to discuss how to enhance the ICCA.
>>>(BUT - please don't post "wish lists" that "someone else" "could do".
>>>Much more welcome would be ideas combined with an offer that the poster
>>>would do them!!)
>>>
>>>>I don't recall ever seeing any CCC posts made by Levy, Newborn, or vd Herik.
>>>
>>>They don't subscribe to this forum.  That's their choice.  Yes,
>>>contributions here from them would be beneficial, but they do other
>>>things of benefit to the CC community with their time.
>>>
>>>>To reiterate Bruce's point, the bare minimum of activity would be to announce
>>>>ICCA events here. Every time an event nears, there is a huge mass of confusion
>>>>about the event on CCC. This is unnecessary confusion if the ICCA is here (as
>>>>you claim).
>>>
>>>Unfortunately that often reflects lack of positive information to post.
>>>For example I'm still waiting to hear if we've got the sponsorship for
>>>the WMCCC planned for August 2000 at the planned Computer Olympiad.
>>>Sometimes we don't hear until the last minute.  The sponsorship for the
>>>WCCC last year was still being negotiated months after the "deadline" we
>>>had initially set, and after the date we should have been notifying
>>>participants about the arrangements.
>>>
>>>Don Beal.
>>
>>Don,
>>
>>Perhaps you can search (ask) for someone who is qualified and is willing
>>to improve and maintain the ICCA web-site. For instance I do believe the
>>least the ICCA should have is its own message board.
>>
>>Keep up the good work.
>>
>>Ed
>
>I aggree, a message board would be a great idea for ICCA, it would go a _long_
>way towards promoting it.  I'm betting that it's helped Steven's business a
>great deal by hosting this CCC forum.

The ICCA could do several initiatives such as "topic of the month" where
programmers can discuss (for instance) a specific search technique (or
whatever) into deepest detail. At several times I thought about the
possibility to open such a board myself (the Programmers Board) but I
absolutely have no time to do all the work involved to introduce a new
topic each month and to make an overview of the most important points
of the topic thereafter.

To setup the board itself is a 5 minutes job as we use the UBB software
which automatically allows multiple forums. But it should be a lot better
the ICCA does such a job as it fits them much better.

Ed


>Pete



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