Author: Jason Williamson
Date: 16:35:10 07/18/00
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On July 18, 2000 at 18:37:36, Pete R. wrote: >On July 18, 2000 at 14:08:15, blass uri wrote: > >>There is a disagreement about this question. >>The programmer of Deep Junior believe that Deep Junior can beat Deeper blue in >a match. > >Based on what? I can say I think I can beat up Bruce Lee, primarily because >he's dead. :) We don't know how match-ready DB2 really was, maybe they got it >tuned well enough just in time, and were lucky, but in reality it could have >been much stronger. It's meaningless to say you can keep tuning DJ but DB2 >would have to remain as it was, or some such. Getting all your eval for free in >hardware is still nothing to sneeze at. > >My question is still whether all those eval terms are needed to produce a >championship level of play, or whether tuning of existing parameters in a >program like Junior is enough. If what you say is true perhaps the Junior team >feels that is the case. Certainly changing a single line of eval code could >cause dramatic changes in playing style to appear (such as not giving up an >advanced knight outpost for nothing), so perhaps modern programs do have enough >terms and a little nudge here and there will avoid these bad positional moves. >Since it looks like DB will never be resurrected, all the current programs have >to do to show that they are just as good is to beat Kasparov at standard time >control. And stop playing "stupid computer moves". ;) Not to mention what you said, but also geeze its been what, 5 years? Think about the speed increases on the PC. I suspect that Hsu would be able to come up with a simular increase in speed (2-4x? Maybe 10x?) And then this 2 billion-20 billion position a second beast would be pretty nifty. Lets face it, Deep Junior doesn't stand a chance against a modernized deepblue and to compare differnt generations is just as stupid as the Fischer could beat Kasparov arguments you also here. Jason
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