Author: Derrick Wilson
Date: 13:25:28 08/05/00
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On August 05, 2000 at 07:01:40, blass uri wrote: >On August 04, 2000 at 22:57:21, Derrick Wilson wrote: > >>On August 04, 2000 at 22:25:43, Imran Hendley wrote: >> >>>On August 04, 2000 at 22:01:43, Derrick Wilson wrote: >>> >>>>On August 04, 2000 at 21:21:42, Laurence Chen wrote: >>>> >>>>><snip> >>>>>> I don't believe this list for a second!! Consider this, on a pent 200 the list >>>>>>states that hiarcs6 is only 2417, yet the same program on that hardware defeated >>>>>>2495 dean hergott in a six game match!! >>>>>Yes, Dean Hergott at the time did not have a copy of Hiarcs to play and practice >>>>>with. Also computers chess at the time was not taken as seriously as it now. >>>>>The other explanation is that Dean Hergott was not aware of any anti-computer >>>>>strategy, or, he played he's usual style because he did not believe that the >>>>>computer was a serious threat. Result he lost to Hiarcs 6 on a Pentium 200. If >>>>>you look at the games, the games were not closed, locked up positions, no >>>>>anti-computer strategy was used. >>>>>Laurence >>>> >>>> >>>>Yawn....excuses, excuses, excuses... if my grandma had wings she could fly. If i >>>>could play better chess I could beat Garry kasparov. >>> >>>There's no law that says someone can't defeat an opponent rated 78 points higher >>>in a 6 game match. Six games isn't a lot, and the margin isn't all that big. It >>>happens. I don't think this one match is reason enough to say the SSDF should >>>not have lowered their ratings. You gotta see the big picture. >> >> >> Which is? The question is not whatever or not they should have lowered their >>rating, obviously they should, but by how much? > > >Every number may be wrong because the performance of programs against humans may >be different than the performance against computers. > >I also read that there was a noise in the match against Hiarcs6 and one match is >also not an evidence. > >I believe that if you do a match between humans with 78 points rating difference >you will find often 4:2 results for the player with the lower rating. > >I am sure that you can find examples in the ssdf games when program A won the >first 6 games 4:2 inspite of being more than 78 points lower based on the ssdf >rating. > >Uri I wonder if hergott had won the match, if would would have heard anything about there being noise.
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