Author: Peter McKenzie
Date: 16:06:41 08/14/00
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On August 14, 2000 at 18:51:26, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On August 14, 2000 at 18:23:36, Michael Fuhrmann wrote: > >>On August 14, 2000 at 18:02:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On August 14, 2000 at 17:15:03, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>>On August 14, 2000 at 13:55:30, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>On August 14, 2000 at 00:25:54, Ed Schröder wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On August 13, 2000 at 23:04:06, robert blackwell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>People should check out a position more carefully before claiming a move is bad. >>>>>>>bxa2 in the position given in the earlier post is the right move and it is the >>>>>>>move nd5 which loses as it breaks the pin on the d file preventing bxb3! any >>>>>> >>>>>>1..Bxa2 2.b3 Nd5 and black holds the position. If this is what you >>>>>>mean I am in agreement. >>>>>> >>>>>>Ed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>If by "holds" you mean doesn't lose material, then I agree. If you mean >>>>>"maintains near-equality_ then I don't agree... >>>> >>>>Regardless of whether it is good or bad, I don't want to see my program play >>>>Bxa2, since it is often a losing blunder, and even when it isn't, it looks like >>>>a gross computer move. >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>> >>>Couldn't agree more. Except for those cases where the bishop takes and then >>>escapes. It is ugly to see programs that some argue play at a strong GM level, >>>play a move like Bxa2 that no beginner would play (may be ok in this position, >>>although black seems to get into trouble). >>> >>>I used to cringe at such moves. >> >>This debate recalls (for me) a similar move Fischer played vs Spassky in the >>world championship. (Think it was Bxa7, leading to a trapped bishop.) At the >>time I remember the commentators being incredulous that Fischer played a moved >>that no club player would play, etc. If I remember correctly, Fischer lost that >>game badly. > >That is correct. I was just getting ready to make that very same comment just >prior to looking at your thread. I remembered it well at thhe time and could not >believe that he actually made it. I think Jon Speelman showed that Fischer's move actually lead to a draw with best play. I guess Bobby was trying to show us how clever he was, but he didn't quite pull it off that time. There were plenty of other times during the match where he played moves that at first site looked stupid, but on deeper analysis turned out fine. >Wayne
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