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Subject: Re: Crafty v17

Author: pavel

Date: 08:57:14 08/22/00

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On August 21, 2000 at 10:44:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 21, 2000 at 09:34:31, pavel wrote:
>
>>On August 21, 2000 at 08:52:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 21, 2000 at 08:28:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 08:20:01, Jason Williamson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 06:47:02, pavel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 05:55:03, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:27:23, pavel wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On August 21, 2000 at 01:12:14, Wayne Lowrance wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I am determined to be heard. Crafty for tournament play by SSDF should be called
>>>>>>>>>Crafty V17 as suggest earlier.
>>>>>>>>>Wayne
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>maybe you should put   "as suggested by the author himself earlier"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>atleast the guys in SSDF will take it seriously (??).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>or they would say "oh these are a bunch of kids who likes crafty" (joke)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>pavel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think we should restart with a later version 17.11 and higher, there is many
>>>>>>>signs that these versions are clearly better, compare for instance the list for
>>>>>>>Chessbase engines, where 17.11 is placed much higher than 17.07.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bertil SSDF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>IMO there is no need of restarting, since so many games has been played.
>>>>>>all these games would be a waste then.
>>>>>>'I suggest' that when you play with crafty next time pls use the latest version
>>>>>>available and name all the version V17, in this way it will be easier.
>>>>>>and you dont have to play with every version. just uptodate version 17 with the
>>>>>>versions that are available......
>>>>>>'even better suggestion' use the auto232 to connect chessbase interface with
>>>>>>winboard, AFAIK there is no hassle at all. and in ICS (internet chess servers)
>>>>>>there are MANY computer accounts who are playing chessbase engines like that.
>>>>>>'I am sure' that there is no problem with the autoplayer at all .........
>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>pavel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ps, I am sure people probably has better ideas ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>This is the idea that makes the most sense to me with engines like Crafty that
>>>>>will be updated more then once a year.  Bascily, SDDF has to just see the fact
>>>>>there isn't all that much that differnt from 17.7 and 17.11 just some big bug
>>>>>fixes, while from 16.x and 17.x has a lot of big changes.  Basicly, if it was my
>>>>>rating list I would just measure the main version.
>>>>
>>>>I do not understand about what bugs you are talking
>>>>
>>>>I read that 17.8 is the version that won the ICC tournament.
>>>>and I read also that 17.7 is identical to 17.8 about chess moves.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>
>>>That is part of the point.  Why test both 17.7 _and_ 17.8?  And who should look
>>>at the source to see whether a new version has enough changes to justify testing
>>>it against the older versions?
>>>
>>>_every_ version has had bugs fixed that were in previous versions.  Where a bug
>>>could be something that might make it crash (rare), or either incorrect
>>>knowledge, or incorrectly implemented knowledge.  Or even missing special-case
>>>knowledge...
>>
>>
>>I was wondering if you would want to cimpile a version for chessbase (as you do
>>for unix, smp, windows , maicntosh (??) and others).
>>In this case atleast we can be 'sure' that it is the 'real' crafty.
>>playing the same moves (though havent tested throughly) doesnt necessary mean
>>its the same thing.
>>I believe several things has been taken out of crafty to make it chessbase
>>compatible.
>>but again I may be wrong ;)
>>
>>pavel
>
>
>I can't.  I don't know what they do to the source to make it compatible with
>their API..
>
>Bob


"I think" i do..

I will let you know as soon as i am sure ;)

pavel



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