Author: Aaron Tay
Date: 07:30:46 08/24/00
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On August 23, 2000 at 11:28:18, pavel wrote: >On August 23, 2000 at 06:41:33, Aaron Tay wrote: > >>On August 23, 2000 at 03:31:58, pavel wrote: >> >>>maybe I dont understand the concept right (coz i was not aware of winboard >>>adapter before). >>>if you can play with winboard adapter rightfully then why the need of >>>winboard native engine? >> >>AActually this was answered before by Pete..in one of the threads you started >>>I dont have the downloadable version of winboard adapter (or whatever it >>>is ). >>Go get it at Chess base or at Frank's site.Test it out..learn more about >>it..yourself, that's the best way. Have you tried this yet? >>>i was wondering if crafty (the winboard version) can play with the winboard >>>adapter? ......if so, is there any differance? >>It seems to me you are still confused..If you want crafty to play in CB gui, >>you need to either use the native versions by CB go use the winboard adaptor.. >> >> >> >sorry Aaron for boring you. but it really wasnt intentional ;) It's amazing how you can argue so much and yet confess that you don't even know what the winboard adaptor is.. >using the native version of Cb or using the winboard adapter doesnt seems to be >the only option...... Pray tell, what's the other option? A native version is one where all you have to do is to add the x.eng file to the engines folder and it will run.. Some native versions are free.While others like the young talent are not. Otherwise you (the user, not the programmer) rename the winboard adaptor , add a directory for the program and put all the files in there.. What's the third option? >to my "other" thread that "I started" Kai skibbi as a YT programmer said what >is the 'other way'......go check it out. Here's a contradiction. Crafty.eng (the native version) exists .Yet Dr Hyatt claims that he doesn't know how to complie it. .. So obviously, someone else must have done it for him.. On the other hand, the young talents authors appear to do it themselves..So my guess is usually, you must submit your code to CB. Only Young Talents authors appears to have a special status, that allows them access to the CB changes needed.. My guess is since CB makes money off them, they are sort of affiliated to CB, a "part time status" that allows CB to trust them enough to reveal the differences needed.. In the same way, Junior,Nimzo,Fritz, etc also don't need anyone to complie the versions for them..On the other hand, I haven;t heard of winboard versions of Junior or Fritz.. All others, such as crafty must submit their code.. >yes i am probably wrong (to the fact that everyone can compile 'easily' an .eng >version of their program) , but again no one in this world is perfect. >I have the guts to accept my 'mistakes'. >on the other hand, I am 'rightfully' right that it is not necessary to give out >your source code to the 'CB guys' to make it compatible. > >the information that is needed to from the CB guys to make it compatible for >CB??where to get it?? By my reasoning above, you can't..Unless you go into some new licensing scheme similar to that done by the Young talents.. So, in fact, you are mostly totally wrong..Young Talents authors are a different case. >i am know 100% positive that I read it on winboard forum posted by someone. >but i cannot find the 'particular' post from the archieve :( Read what? >I dont think the CB guys will say 'no' if you ask for it (the necessary info). I think they will object.. . > >'but again' that wasnt the main issue ( we have gone far from that). >the main issue was that 'what other options do we have, other than making the >native version of crafty(CB) play in the SSDF' True. But before you argue anything.. >I said 'either BOB compiles one for CB or the SSDF guys use the auto232, which >works as a pipe for CB interface and winboard' >Bob said ' he doesnt know (or have any information) about how to compile one >for CB GUI' > >Uri said ' there is no other way to compile one for CB unless the the Cb guys >compiles themselves' Uri is right. >ok lets say we have 'dicussed' the part that it is 'probably' possible to make >a compiled version for CB without the native version. It's not possible..Not for free winboard engines anyway. >so that leaves "why not use the (winboard-CB) autoplayer?" (auto232??). I'm sure there are good reasons..Like technical reasons..But why not try finding out how auto232 works first ? Or whether there is such a thing as a winboard-CB autoplayer? (there is? only recently?) I have no idea either.. >another boring one...... It's not boring, just that I find it's extremely tedious to watch you argue things when you appear so ignorant about the things you are arguing about..
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