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Subject: Re: wrong opening preparation

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:15:51 08/24/00

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On August 24, 2000 at 11:05:59, Christian Pike wrote:

>On August 24, 2000 at 10:47:34, Gordon Rattray wrote:
>
>>I totally disagree.  The tournament winner should be the program that plays the
>>best chess.  Playing the opening is part of a chess game!
>
>but the opening is mostly not chosen by the program itself, but in preparation
>by the advisor.
>
>> You can't just skip
>>this phase by starting with a chosen position - that's not true chess.
>
>i would throw the opponent early out of book. not setup a special position.
>but throwing them early out of book with a rare move.

This may be a good idea if you believe that your engine is clearly better than
the opponent.

>then we can see how strong the engines are.
>the advisors often forget that the engine has to win that game, not themselves.
>and that the opponent has also a prepared opening book.

They do not forget it.
They probably believe that they prepared a better opening book than the other
side otherwise they will tell the engine to play early a rare move
>
>what i often see
>is that both programs follow very deep lines. nobody (neither team A nor
>team B ) has really control over the situation, and any strange line
>comes on board. i see no sense in such a russian-roulette.
>it may a good random-generator, but i would like to see
>rebel or tiger win or lose their games because of the engines strength
>and not because of some weir lines.

The engine is important.
Shredder saved lost position and did draws because of the engine.

You cannot be the champion with a weak engine because the opponent will throw
you early out of book in this case.

<snipped>
>but i see always tiger / rebel losing due to opening stuff.
>we should dope jeroen !

They usually do not lose only becuase of book.

Uri



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