Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:03:34 08/30/00
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On August 30, 2000 at 05:11:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >Oh well crafty has achieved in this championship 0 out of 4 in >Najdorf. > >Not a score to be proud of. > >I miss your redenation completely. It didn't play Nxe6 to start with. >Fritz isn't a holy program. It makes mistakes. Yet it fried crafty here. > >Perhaps give a tip? > >Never play najdorf again with crafty! Nope... I think it is a perfectly sound opening to play, with a computer, without q-search checks, etc... That is _exactly_ the kind of opening I want to play against GM players. And is an ok opening to play against computers... > >On August 29, 2000 at 21 > >:40:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On August 29, 2000 at 14:20:43, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >> >>>Graham, >>> >>>both games were Najdorf classical mainline B99. >>> >>>I know this is hard to realize, but then you were already lost. >>> >>>That fritz didn't finish it like Kasparov there is quite logical, >>>even objective you usual make a chance, >>>yet you were never better as Crafty lost with >>>induction to the search. >> >>I don't agree with this yet. Nxe6 gives black a lot of >>trouble as well... >> >> >> >> >>> >>>In testgames crafty-fritz that must have been 0-100. >>> >>>On August 29, 2000 at 14:08:40, Graham Laight wrote: >>> >>>>>Crafty however had lost chanceless on book against Nimzo with white. >>>>>It would play against the EXACTLY same book against Fritz now for sure, >>>>>a sure zero again. 100% chance. Now i >>>>>WARNED Graham that it was NOT a good idea to again play the same line >>>>>against Fritz. >>>>> >>>>>"learning will prevent that, and don't tell them i have a different book too". >>>>> >>>>>But he did not CHECK whether in that different book a different line >>>>>would get played, despite warnings that it would happen. If you use an >>>>>automatically >>>>>generated book there is 100% chance you lose against the Kure book in the >>>>>Najdorf, >>>>>you can only hope the engine crashes somewhere playing thereby a help mate in 1 >>>>>move. >>>>> >>>>>In fact this 'new' crafty book was even more pathetic as against Nimzo. >>>>>It didn't even know the Rg1-g7 moves. >>>>> >>>>>I don't need to mention that it lost in the 9th round in >>>>>exactly the same mainline against >>>>>Fritz as it did against Nimzo. >>>> >>>>Actually, Crafty played into a very different game against Fritz than it did >>>>against Nimzo. Crafty appeared to have the advantage for much of the game >>>>against Fritz, because Fritz (after Crafty had played a different line) >>>>sacrificed a knight to expose Crafty's king (and to create a kingside passed >>>>pawn, which was eventually used to win the game). >>>> >>>>If you wish to see this for yourself, look at the games on the ICCA web site - >>>>http://www.dcs.qmw.ac.uk/~olympiad/ >>>> >>>>Crafty v Fritz was round 9, Crafty V Nimzo was either round 3 or 4. >>> >>>>-g >>>> >>>>>Now suppose Graham had not ignored my warning, and he would have been more >>>>>fanatic >>>>>to NOT lose the same line for the second time. I'm SURE it would not have >>>>>mattered, >>>>>because how in the world could he change the crafty book within say 5 minutes? >>>>> >>>>>He would NEVER have managed this.
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