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Subject: Re: Two mate position to solve.

Author: Larry Griffiths

Date: 05:46:01 09/06/00

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On September 06, 2000 at 07:34:48, leonid wrote:

>Hello!
>
>Please, solve this position and say how much difference your hash table did.
>
>Indicate any parameter of your search that you consider important.
>
>It is pretty normal position from the book.
>
> kb6/B3P3/K1P5/p7/P7/3r4//8/8 w

Here is what I got for this position...

HashTable is 8 meg.

Extracted bm=

00:00:00.031  2 -           -3000   Bxb8 Kxb8  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:00.046  2 -            5000   e8   Rd1   ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:00.046  2 -            5000   e8    <----------

00:00:00.109  3 -            8000   Bxb8 Rd1  e8   Kc7  Qxd8  ? cxd7 Kc7  Qg8
?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:00.109  3 -            8000   Bxb8  <----------

00:00:00.171  4 -           -1000   Bxb8 Re3  e8   Rxe8 Bxe5  ? Qf5  Rxb3 Qxd3
Kxc6  ?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:00.187  4 -            5000   e8   Rb3  Bxb8 Rxb8 Qxc6 Kxb8 Qb7   ? Qa7
?  ?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:00.203  4 -            5000   e8    <----------

00:00:00.312  5 -            2000   Bxb8 Re3  Bd6  Re6  e8   Rxe8 e8   Rxe8 Kb4
Rxc7 Nxc3  ?  ?
?  ?
00:00:00.406  5 -        77777771   e8   Rb3  c7   Rb6  Bxb6  ? Qxb3 Rxb7 e8
Kd7  Qxd6  ?  ?
?  ?
00:00:00.437  5 -        77777771   e8    <----------

00:00:00.531  6 -               0   Bxb8 Re3  Kxa5 Kxb8 c7   Kc8  e8   Rxe8 e8
Rxc8 axb5  ?  ?
?  ?  ?
00:00:00.750  6 -        77777771   e8   Rb3  c7   Rb6  Bxb6  ? Qxb8  ? axb5  ?
Bxg3  ?  ?  ?  ?
?
00:00:00.812  6 -        77777771   e8    <----------

00:00:01.234  7 -            3000   Bxb8 Re3  Bd6  Re6  Kxa5 Re1  e8   Kxb8 cxd8
 ? Kb4  Kxc7
Kxa6  ?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:02.390  7 -        88879990   e8   Rb3  Qd7  Bc7  Qc8  Bb8  Qb7  Rxb7 cxb7
 ?  ? Rxa4 Qb7
?  ?  ?  ?
00:00:02.531  7 -        88879990   e8    <----------


Elapsed Time= 2.53 seconds





>
>My solver could not resolve it by selective search and went paintful 24 sec (AMD
>400) before finding the mate. Mine have no hash tables. When I went to see it on
>Rebel 10, I was impressed. His time in solving the position knew around 6 fold
>improvement between solution without hash and with it. His hash was 28 M.
>
> q1bkb1q1/2nqn3/1BrnrB2/1R1Q1R2/1NNQNN2/2Q1Q3/2QQQ3/3K4 w
>
>This last, is the fantasy position. Did it yesterday. Also could not solve it at
>minimum number of moves by selective search. It took lengthy 18.5 min to reach
>minimum number of moves for mate by brute force. Selective search can reach it
>only if one move more is permitted. Then it take it in 2 sec. But how much hash
>table could help in this position?
>
>Thanks,
>Leonid.



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