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Subject: Re: what does the new rebel package have that chessbase engines dont?

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 05:59:15 10/13/00

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On October 13, 2000 at 05:27:08, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>If I try to condense everything you say into a few words it would be: Very
>strong engines, ICS support and little diskspace needed. Not significantly
>different from the first Rebel Tiger AFAIK.

Very strong engines, as you say, plus different playing styles and some
refinements in the GUI.

>You don't mention anything about it's analytical capabilities or features
>regarding the GUI itself, eg. database functions

Elementary database functions: load, save, basic search.

> and automated tournaments.

No.

>I
>would still like to know if it can be used for engine tournaments without two
>computers or accessing an ICS.

You can play eng-eng in Rebel, but only with different flavors of Rebel. And you
can always autoplay on one machine, connecting the cable to Com1 and Com2. I
don't think it would work for Rebel 11, but Tiger and Gambit should.

>Otherwise it sounds more like WinBoard with a price tag.

Winboard doesn't give you Tiger 13, Gambit, Rebel 11, some refinements in the
GUI...

> The difference in being
>beaten to a pulp by either Crafty or Gambit Tiger is minimal for most people I
>imagine, but less painful if it's for free :o).

If you were right, commercial programs wouldn't sell. But they do: better
engines, better GUI.

> Why not buy CM 8000 instead?

Basically, because of the engines. The King is great, but three top and
different engines in one package is very attractive, to me at least.

>Still looks like ICS show off software to me, which the latter paragraphs of
>your message exemplifies.
>
>Nice sales pitch, but a few more facts and specifics would be nice.

I think there is a description on Rebel's web page.

If you don't care anymore about getting new engines, strong and different from
others in style, then I guess you shouldn't bother with the new RT. In my
opinion, there is nothing that globally can touch Fritz in terms of GUI, but
there is still live after Fritz. In the case of RT, it comes mainly in the form
of very strong and attractive engines.

Rebel is the refined and balanced engine we all know, but better than before.
Tiger 13 is, in my opinion, about sheer strength, although on the passive side.
Gambit is the one that should carry the name of Tiger.

Enrique

>Mogens.



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